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Offline scooby

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Virginia Early Pattern Flintlock
« on: June 08, 2018, 11:32:03 AM »
Mulled it over for a couple of years before deciding to have this piece put together by my Montana buddy. We got the project up and running in June of last year. After a long wait for the barrel and stock blank, he got started on it in December. I recently picked up the finished rifle on Memorial weekend.

We had originally decided to copy many of the elements on the original Johanes Faber rifle. However, I wanted a longer barrel and a different style of trigger guard, as well as double set triggers. Our intentions were for me to end up with a Southern rifle that would fit into the 1750/1760 era.

A few particulars of the rifle are; .62 calibre, 48 inch long Rice barrel, Curly Maple stock, Jim Chambers English pattern lock, and a hand pounded butt plate made exclusively for this piece by my other Montana buddy. Subtle engraving is present on the lock plate, barrel tang, side plate, trigger guard, and butt plate. As well, there is some relief carving on the butt stock and wrist. Both the barrel and the lock were left in the white.

I have had it out shooting 3 different times now, and it has proven to be accurate. Rice makes a dang good barrel. The Chambers lock is fast as well. This rifle has a lot of special meaning to me considering who built it.

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Re: Virginia Early Pattern Flintlock
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2018, 11:59:14 AM »
Scooby, that is a real beauty! I have an affinity for rifles like that as my ancestors lived on the frontier of Virginia in the 1760s after being driven out of the Forks of the Yadkin in North Carolina by the Cherokee.

I had a rifle with a barrel that length. Is it swamped?
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Re: Virginia Early Pattern Flintlock
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2018, 12:54:49 PM »
Hi scooby, that's one beautiful rifle!!

The stock is something to drool over.

Regards,
Richard
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Re: Virginia Early Pattern Flintlock
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2018, 01:20:10 PM »
Scooby, that is a real beauty! I have an affinity for rifles like that as my ancestors lived on the frontier of Virginia in the 1760s after being driven out of the Forks of the Yadkin in North Carolina by the Cherokee.

I had a rifle with a barrel that length. Is it swamped?


It is indeed swamped.

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Re: Virginia Early Pattern Flintlock
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2018, 01:21:01 PM »
Hi scooby, that's one beautiful rifle!!

The stock is something to drool over.



Regards,
Richard

Thank you kindly Richard.

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Re: Virginia Early Pattern Flintlock
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2018, 02:49:56 PM »
Hey Scoob, with that Chambers lock even you can can make it go boom.   (7+"

BTW, nice smoker.

Also, don't tell anyone about amber flint, leaves more for us.
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Re: Virginia Early Pattern Flintlock
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2018, 03:25:55 PM »
Hmmm, I always took you for a Pyrodex and inline type of dude rd.

Also, there is nothing special about Amber flints and every flint shooter in the country already knows about them.

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Re: Virginia Early Pattern Flintlock
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2018, 07:13:48 PM »
Gorgeous!

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Re: Virginia Early Pattern Flintlock
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2018, 08:30:55 PM »
That's a fine looking flinter Scooby.   You have some talented buddies over there in Montana.

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Re: Virginia Early Pattern Flintlock
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2018, 08:55:57 PM »
That is truly an outstanding piece, Scooby. You do know how to pick 'em.
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Re: Virginia Early Pattern Flintlock
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2018, 10:42:06 PM »
Stunning rifle and workmanship - nice photographs, too!

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Re: Virginia Early Pattern Flintlock
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2018, 12:41:01 PM »
Great looking rifle! I have a Beck-style flinter with a swamped Rice barrel....great shooters!

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Re: Virginia Early Pattern Flintlock
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2018, 08:32:13 PM »
Damn Scoob, that is gorgeous. You get all the neat toys. :-*

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Re: Virginia Early Pattern Flintlock
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2018, 11:17:51 AM »
 (7& Dang that is beautiful....I think the Early Virginia rifles are the best lookin flintlocks...Wanting to build one myself....Looked at on in Williamsburg built by the gunshop in Colonial Williamsburg....Just couldnt deal with the 20,000 dollar price tag....Yep thats right 20,000 dollars .....10,000 down and 10,ooo when finished in 8 years ....yep 8 years

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Re: Virginia Early Pattern Flintlock
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2018, 07:21:29 AM »
Thanks for the comments men.

Mazo, I too have a Beck that was copied from an original, but it has a straight profile Green Mountain barrel. It has some fine carving on it. It is no longer so pretty though because I used to hunt and woods run with it a lot.

Hawg, you are right. I have been fortunate when it comes to my gun collection.

HAWKEN50, I have been partial to the Early Virginia style as well. There are now four such types being carried by men that I run the woods with. And you are correct about the long wait with some builders. They have built up such a name for themselves that they are booked up for years.

Per the request of my friend who built this new rifle, I did in fact kill my deer with it this very fall dressed in full 18TH Century attire and using period accroutrements.
« Last Edit: December 08, 2018, 07:23:45 AM by scooby »