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Re: Good price for gated 1851 conversion
« Reply #30 on: March 10, 2019, 09:37:32 AM »
Hi, the 38 Colt/38 Special conversion to the Pietta "Old Silver" 1851 is done:



The cylinder was shortened ~0.005", the barrel/cylinder gap is now 0.0015". While I did the Ruger hand spring mod, the hand needed to be shortened ~0.010" to have the revolver cycle properly.

I kind of like the two-tone of silver and blue. Do you?

In the future if I get tired of the two-tone look, I could either strip the bluing, or nitre blue the whole revolver. Niter bluing produces a very handsome finish, like charcoal bluing:

http://blackpowdersmoke.com/colt/index.php/topic,2724.msg27590.html#msg27590

As soon as the weather breaks, this revolver gets a thorough work out. My steel targets are already shaking.

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Richard
« Last Edit: March 11, 2019, 05:27:05 AM by ssb73q »
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Re: Good price for gated 1851 conversion
« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2019, 10:39:45 AM »
I initially stated that I don't like two tone revolvers. But I gotta say, that looks pretty darn nice. And like you say, you can always go a different route later if you tire of this look.

Nice work Richard.
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Re: Good price for gated 1851 conversion
« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2019, 05:52:54 PM »
Hi, the 38 Colt/38 Special conversion to the Pietta "Old Silver" 1851 is done:




I kind of like the two-tone of silver and blue. Do you?

In the future if I get tired of the two-tone look, I could either strip the bluing, or nitre blue the whole revolver. Niter bluing produces a very handsome finish, like charcoal bluing:

http://blackpowdersmoke.com/colt/index.php/topic,2724.msg27590.html#msg27590

As soon as the weather breaks, this revolver gets a through work out. My steel targets are already shaking.

Regards,
Richard
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Re: Good price for gated 1851 conversion
« Reply #33 on: March 10, 2019, 05:54:40 PM »
Hi, the 38 Colt/38 Special conversion to the Pietta "Old Silver" 1851 is done:



I kind of like the two-tone of silver and blue. Do you?

http://blackpowdersmoke.com/colt/index.php/topic,2724.msg27590.html#msg27590
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Re: Good price for gated 1851 conversion
« Reply #34 on: March 11, 2019, 01:31:47 PM »
Hi, fitting a Kirst ejector can be a royal PITA. Many times the main mounting hole doesn't line up. The other issues are that it is difficult to get the ejector parallel to the bore and having it stay put. Assuming you can get the ejector mounted, a solution to the other problem of keeping the ejector parallel and having it stay put is to put a couple of push/push set screws into the ejector. This photo shows the ejector with 6-32 push/push screws, 3/16" long forward, 3/8" aft:



The Kirst instructions suggests using shims. IMO that's a terrible solution that makes rigidity and disassembly for cleaning difficult.

Howell instructions says that mounting the gated conversion cylinder requires that the hammer face be shortened and the hammer safety slot filled in with JB Weld. That has been done. Tomorrow the gated conversion cylinder should arrive. A couple more days and the "Old Silver" will be ready to shoot.

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Richard

Hi, I sent Walt Kirst the link to this message. The intent is to offer an easy solution to fitting the Kirst ejector to the 1851 that will benefit all. I received this reply from Walt Kirst:

"Richard,
Thank you for a solution to loose ejectors. I'm going to experiment and likely add set screws to our design.
Thank You,
Walt Kirst"

Sounds good.

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Re: Good price for gated 1851 conversion
« Reply #35 on: March 11, 2019, 01:38:56 PM »
Wow, a manufacturer that listens. That's pretty awesome Richard.
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Re: Good price for gated 1851 conversion
« Reply #36 on: March 17, 2019, 08:25:00 AM »
Real nice looking setup.

I think I'd be tempted to try a blued screw set in the frame of the gun to give it some contrasting colors.

Then I'd be tempted to blue the trigger and hammer to match the cylinder.

Lastly I'd get the barrel lined so I don't need to mess with healed or hollow base bullets.
This fella has a good price on barrel lining.
http://www.cartridgeconversion.com/SERVICES.php
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Re: Good price for gated 1851 conversion
« Reply #37 on: March 17, 2019, 10:38:55 AM »
Hi drobs, using blued screws, hammer, and trigger sound interesting. The guy that does the barrel relining is Hoof Hearted who occasionally posts to the Remington message board. He helps Walt Kirst do development on the Kirst conversion cylinders. I won't do the relining because I want to keep the revolver as stock as possible so that it could be easily returned to C&B use. I find that hollow based bullets are accurate enough for casual shooting. I also have a stock of evil to reload heeled 38 Colt cartridges loaded if I ever need precision accuracy.

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Re: Good price for gated 1851 conversion
« Reply #38 on: March 21, 2019, 10:53:23 PM »
Richard, absolutely ... the two tone ROCKS! Always liked that look.
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