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Single shots / Passed up a flintlock pistol today.
« Last post by Electric Miner on Today at 04:13:36 PM »
Local gunstore had it marked "as is".

It was a Jukar .45 caliber kit pistol. It had been put together out of the box with no attempt at fitting stuff. Problem was the inletting for the lock was such that with the barrel in place, the upper edge of the touch hole barely showed above the pan. There was no way to lower the pan that wouldn't require completely altering the inletting of the lock to move it down, which would require repositioning most everything else. And I could see no good way to reposition the touch hole to moved it up to a useable position.

Despite the $75 price, I said no. It would have required a ton of work to end up with a mediocre flintlock pistol.
Pocket Models / Re: Wells Fargo, cheap
« Last post by Bishop Creek on Today at 12:16:31 PM »
Thanks for the replies ssb73q and 45 Dragoon. Now I understand. I do have a Ruger Old Army so I should have known better.
Pocket Models / Re: Wells Fargo, cheap
« Last post by 45 Dragoon on Today at 11:38:25 AM »
Hey Bishop!!
  That article should give you an idea of what the hand spring "fix" is. 
 Richard has some info backwards though. The installation of the coil and plunger (Ruger style - more spring than plunger) INDUCES throw-by (it's too soft) which is why you typically see a "beauty ring" on Rugers. A correctly set up flat hand spring is what keeps throw-by at bay.  This is why I was taught NOT to do the conversion. My own coil and pushrod (as much pushrod as spring but the spring has more tension) mimics the flat spring action and feel without the induced throw-by. That gives you Colt feel with Ruger life span! I believe Richard "solved " his induced throw-by by using a stiff grease rather than a stouter spring.

Anyway, the most broken spring is the hand spring (of course not by the accounts of Richard and Hawg!!) and this seems to be the most wanted "upgrade" , second is the torsion spring for the bolt (the second most broken spring).

On the pocket type revolvers, the placement of the spring in the frame is not the same as for the Army,Navy, Dragoons and Walkers.

Thanks for asking Bishop!!

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Pocket Models / Re: Wells Fargo, cheap
« Last post by ssb73q on Today at 05:17:48 AM »
Hi Bishop, see pages 9-15 of this reference:

Pocket Models / Re: Wells Fargo, cheap
« Last post by ssb73q on January 21, 2018, 08:14:22 PM »
Hi Bishop, the coil spring are Ruger plunger and spring to replace the leaf spring of the revolver hand. It's supposed to prevent breaking the hand spring. However, I have never broken a hand spring, but did do the mod on four BP revolvers. On first blush it seems to be a preferred hand spring method, but comes with its own issue. Cylinder drag from the original hand spring is gone where cylinder over rotation can occur when cocking fast. Heavy grease on the arbor cured over rotation on my 1860 conversion. The 1851s didn't have that issue with the hand spring mod. Of course I could always replace the Ruger hand spring parts with a new hand with flat spring. IMO sometimes we should just leave the original design alone.

Pocket Models / Re: Wells Fargo, cheap
« Last post by Bishop Creek on January 21, 2018, 06:46:51 PM »
Well, you might get some extra clearance if you shoot it much before fixing the arbor. But, since it's a smaller scale, it's in effect "overbuilt"  for the charges. That said, it is important to do the arbor fix.
 Glad it's functioning well. They seem to be popular as they trickle through the shop.
  If you want to install a coil handspring in the frame, the screw hole is the location. You'll have to shorten that screw but it  works very nice.

Have fun!
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Pardon my ignorance Mike, I have read about them but don't understand, what exactly is a coil hand spring?
"Brand X" / Re: .32 S&W Long
« Last post by Dave Shooter on January 21, 2018, 01:37:47 PM »
Here are the two 4" .32s.  Very similar in size.

Interesting trivia:
The Smith is 50 years older than the Colt copy.
Smith as shown is also a smidge under two ounces lighter.
Lead casting / Re: plenty of lead for a while
« Last post by ssb73q on January 21, 2018, 12:42:04 PM »
Hi, ordered another 20lbs of pure lead from eBay, $30 with free shipping. The lead is from x-ray room shielding.

More casting is in store.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: What did you do today?
« Last post by Hawg on January 21, 2018, 12:07:26 PM »
I dunno but whatever it is I haven't done it yet. (7+"
Pocket Models / Re: Wells Fargo, cheap
« Last post by LonesomePigeon on January 21, 2018, 11:37:29 AM »
I wonder if the cylinder gap would change if you sand down the arbor so it fits less tight?
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