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Historically Correct G & G's
« on: March 03, 2017, 09:05:55 AM »
For those interested, there are 2 old Griswold & Gunnisons on Gunbroker.com.
621873030 and 625370117.  Not sure this last one has a brass frame.  If steel, it's a Leech & Rigdon.

RC

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Re: Historically Correct G & G's
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2017, 02:06:24 PM »
For those interested, there are 2 old Griswold & Gunnisons on Gunbroker.com.
621873030 and 625370117.  Not sure this last one has a brass frame.  If steel, it's a Leech & Rigdon.

RC

It's brass.

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Re: Historically Correct G & G's
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2017, 02:38:05 PM »
For those interested, there are 2 old Griswold & Gunnisons on Gunbroker.com.
621873030 and 625370117.  Not sure this last one has a brass frame.  If steel, it's a Leech & Rigdon.

RC

Thanks for the post, RC.

Insofar as the first one http://www.gunbroker.com/item/621873030 I have problems with it. There are no proofs or manufacturer date on the frame and the 3 frame screws as well as the forward trigger guard screw are not original to the pistol (flat heads, not blued, wrong screw slots). It appears to me that the frame has been "sanded" to remove those "terrible" Italian marks. It may be a defarbed pistol, but a poor one at that. With 11 bids at $121 a few people are interested.

The second one http://www.gunbroker.com/item/625370117 looks like a good one for replica collectors. It is a Navy Arms 1851 Navy brasser made before any repro collectors were interested in G&G's. To me, everything on this pistol looks good, even the wedge screw (which most newbies think has to be removed for some reason).

If one is a collector of repro 1851 Navy type pistols, I would watch and maybe bid on this one. The market for the old repros is steadily gaining in price, and IMO, rightly so.

It all depends upon the direction you want to take.

Jim


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Re: Historically Correct G & G's
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2017, 03:44:50 PM »
On GB:

Here is another source for G&G's. I just love the look.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/630090049

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/630296816

I got my Pietta G&G .36 a while back from Cabela's.

Both of these are advertised as High Standard.

Here is an 1851 Navy .44 steel that would work well for you with a cartridge cylinder and the 1860 barrel.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/630889448

Jim
« Last Edit: March 20, 2017, 04:17:38 PM by sourdough »

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Re: Historically Correct G & G's
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2017, 01:23:19 PM »
Another G&G on GB, although not listed as such, "new old stock condition", min bid $225, no reserve, 0 bids, 1d left.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/683866515

Another G&G on GB, same condition, $265, no reserve, 0 bids, 2d left.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/682585747

I have no affiliation with the sellers.

Jim
« Last Edit: August 19, 2017, 01:41:43 PM by sourdough »

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Re: Historically Correct G & G's
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2017, 07:27:18 PM »

I have no affiliation with the sellers.

Jim

No shame there; your honorable reputation remains intact.

Am I being overly critical again or is it too much to expect the people at GunBroker to know the difference between an 1851 Colt and a Griswold & Gunnison?  We’re all used to newbs getting the nomenclature a little mixed up and that’s OK and natural, no big - but an auction house like GB really should know better.  I call it slakin’.

Seems like the box, paperwork and a durn sticker are half the draw on that 51 Navy née Griswold.

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Re: Historically Correct G & G's
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2017, 08:17:39 PM »
I think it would be unrealistic to expect the auction site to monitor the thousands of guns offered, much less be knowledgeable of all the subtle variations. Also, the sellers themselves often don't know exactly what they are selling. Many often misrepresent the guns to get more money. If we see something being misrepresented we should contact the seller or set the record straight by posting an update to the auction.

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Re: Historically Correct G & G's
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2017, 08:27:27 PM »
I think it would be unrealistic to expect the auction site to monitor the thousands of guns offered, much less be knowledgeable of all the subtle variations. 

I suppose you're right about that.  Their job is to move merch and not run a gun school or teach a history class.

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Re: Historically Correct G & G's
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2017, 03:01:08 PM »
Here is a nice looking, defarbed, antiqued G&G  and the seller is honest about what it is and what he did to create it. I like the way he did the grip profile, and there is no divot on the bottom of the backstrap for a shoulder stock:

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/683849954

I think the guy spent a lot of time on this. Best one I have seen yet.

Jim

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Re: Historically Correct G & G's
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2017, 03:08:15 PM »
I think the guy spent a lot of time on this. Best one I have seen yet.

Jim

I agree.  That was someone’s labor of love.  He has also rounded out the bottom front of the receiver area too so as to give it an even greater Griswold look.  Started with an octagon barrel too, imagine.  I had not known that to be done, until now. 

I got a new Pietta G&G in April and have taken a real interest in that mod.  At this point I don’t understand how I had been getting by without one.

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Re: Historically Correct G & G's
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2017, 05:24:46 PM »
Sorry folks, but I must backtrack a bit.

It sold yesterday for $425.

Via email, I have been in contact with the seller prior to the sale ending. He states that it was produced by Steven Krolick for the seller, and not for Lodgewood. Krolick does a lot of work for Lodgewood. A member on another forum spotted it right away from the GB pics because of how the new serial numbers were marked and in the same font.

http://www.lodgewood.com/Custom-Second-Model-Griswold-Gunnison-Revolver_p_2854.html

He has a Dance .36 and a L&R .36 for sale also, in the same genre. He gave me his low price for the Dance at $450 and free shipping, but he cannot remember what pistols he gave to Krolick for the antiquing/ defarbing, so I declined the offer.

I have a feeling he needs some money, for whatever reason.

Anyway, I just wanted you all to know a few details.

Jim