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Army Models / 60 Army tech
« on: October 04, 2017, 11:42:52 PM »
In one of my old books, it is described that Colt tapered the inside of the 60 Army chambers so that the breech area would be stronger after complaints of bursting/bulging cylinders.

Also, that the barrel was originally going to be 7 1/2 in, and that is why the loading lever is set back from the end of the barrel.

General Discussion / Complaints to Colt 1800 s
« on: September 30, 2017, 08:56:09 PM »
Letters to Colt published in a book I have,- The Story Of Colts Revolver  Two different letters to Colt;

1-  Some with a Pocket 49 wrote, really whining (like I do) about a nipple that was too long and broke. He wanted a replacement nipple.

2- Someone with a   'New Model Army Pistol'  with a burst cylinder.    '  . .It blew out at the place in the cylinder near the tube where the catch enters. Two of the places entirely out and another one raised.'

This guy was pissed!  Went on and on demanding new parts, pistol and and and.

General Discussion / Fixation is easy to do with these Colts
« on: September 30, 2017, 08:23:39 PM »
I was doing a lot of shooting.  I started to get mad at the Pocket Police for misfiring too much.  I looked for cap jams, replaced caps and and and ,.  F i n a l l y   I relized the wedge had slipped out   j u s t   enough to cause the barrel and cylinder to move away from striking distance.

Whew.  Got be on my toeas with these here old ns.

Walkers & Dragoons / Picket s Charge!
« on: September 29, 2017, 12:59:36 AM »
Those Pickets from the steel Walker mold are something!  That long snout directs it sideways upon impact where it delivers quite a shock.  Blowing chunks out the back of 2 x 12 s.

Walkers & Dragoons / Walker woes
« on: September 29, 2017, 12:56:42 AM »
Took my Blackboxer out.  Problems.  The wedge would nt  budge!  I had to really smack it with a resin striker.   T h e n   I could nt  get it back in!  It would angle in against the base pin, hitting the inside of the barrel.  Hours and hours looking, scrutinizing, magnifying glass, trying other wedges - which were   a l l   too small, including the replacement wedge for a Walker I got from DGW- ,  I finally, the next day, resorted to filing and honing the wedge until it went   b a c k   in.

The cones-  I could nt  get 11 s  or 12 s on them!  They don t  appear damaged from dry firing or anything like that.  I replaced them with Dragoon cones and it worked.  Ones I have as replacements I got for the Dragoons.

This Walker really seems to have been almost untouched. When I unpacked it, itstill had the plastic sleeve and a gooey residue all over it.  Seemed to be the original lube when it was packed.  No turn marks and no cylinder lock bolt recess marks.


Anyhoo,  she s  going now.

General Discussion / Army Navy games - 61 Navy vs. Dragoon
« on: September 29, 2017, 12:37:40 AM »
Inspired by two different things,-  1- The Hickok shot where the discussion over whether or not a Navy could have done the great damage to Tutt, maybe a Dragoon was used, etc.

2- The story from A prairie Travelers Guide  from 1858 ?  Where it is described how riders with Navies could nt  kill a bear, but only two shot from an  'Old Army'  killed the bear.  The author going on and on about how he s  sold on the Army and others should consider carefully before using a Navy , etc.

I fired a 61 Navy and a Second Dragoon from 70 yards at a torso sized piece of sheet steel with a 2 x 12 backing, set back 5 inches behind it.  Both conicals from the brass molds.  The Navy went through the steel and penetrated the surface ofthe board. Halfway in the surface.  The Dragoon went through the steel, penetrated deep into the board and knocked it over.


General Discussion / What s your favorite target?
« on: September 26, 2017, 08:12:27 PM »
1- sheet steel

2- sheet rock

3- 2 x12 wood

I can go on and on with ridiculous stuff too.

Walkers & Dragoons / Dragoons. Oh Yeah!
« on: September 26, 2017, 07:29:52 PM »
I wrote this in the blog too ,-

At the shoot site the other day, we,-

Watching one of the videos I made of her firing a Dragoon,  I remembered , ,  I was standing off to one side and behind her. When that Colt heavy four pounder went off, the shockwave hit me like a puff of air.  I giggled with elation.

Great!  Just   g r e a t .

General Discussion / 2nd Gen cylinder engravings
« on: September 26, 2017, 07:12:08 PM »
I have a  2nd Gen Pocket Navy and the stagecoach holdup cylinder scene shows the drivers feet?!  What s  up with this?  (The original by Ormsby ended before the ankles, on the Pocket 48/49 and 62).

I have the book on early Colt cylinder scenes, but the author, although touching on replicas/reproductions, does nt  offer much.  All he says is things like-  ' . .Whoever did the engravings , ,'.  He mentiones how in the 20th century someone made  'Advertisment'  plates from which modern cylinder engravings (embossments) were made.

Anyway,  The 2nd Gen scenes seem to be somewhere in the middle of the originals and the Italian replicas.

Who did them?  , and why are they not accurate?

General Discussion / Medicine Bow Butte incident
« on: September 16, 2017, 05:13:11 PM »
Medicine-Bow Butte   1858

In passing near  'Medicine-Bow Butte'  during the Spring of 1858, I most unexpectedly encountered and fired at a full-grown grizzly bear;  but, as my horse had become somewhat blown by a previous gallop, his breathing so much disturbed my aim that I missed and he ran off.  Fearful, if I stopped to reload my rifle, the bear would make his escape, I resolved to drive him back to the advanced  guard of our escort, which I could see approaching in the distance; this I succeeded in doing, when several mounted men armed with the navy revolvers, set off in pursuit.  They approached within a few paces, and discharged ten or twelve shots, the most of which entered the animal, but he still kept on, and his progress did not seem materially impeded by the wounds.  After these men had exhausted their charges, another man rode up with the army revolver, and fired two shots, which brought the stalwart beast to the ground. Upon skinning him and making an examination of the wounds, it was discovered that none of the balls from the small pistols had, after passing through his thick and tough hide, penetrated deeper than about an inch into the flesh, but that the two balls from the large pistol had gone into the vitals and killed him.
This test was to my mind a decisive one as to the relative efficiency of the two arms for frontier service, and I resolved thenceforth to carry the larger size.

General Discussion / Admission of ignorance
« on: September 15, 2017, 08:00:46 PM »
Bad,   b a d ,     b   a   d   .

Last year I was wanting 2 Colt Walkers to replace my replica Walkers.   I purchased Signature Series Walkers   N O T   knowing that they were not 2nd Gen.  I did nt  know  Colt Blackpowder Arms Co. existed, and were reproducing licenced guns.  I just went with the,- 'Authentic reproduction colts , ,.  etc.  When I got them,  I saw that they looked  strange .    S  l  o  w  l  y    I began learning about CBPAC and their  'Authentic reproductions'. 
As I sit here now, I am informed ,  fairly.   Fit and finish is   V E R Y   hit and miss.  The biggest FUPA ?  FUBAR are the Walkers.  They are   I D E N T I C A L  to  Ubertis replicas-  Loading cutout, grip, trigger guard, trigger etc.  The biggest thing is the barrel embossed address.  The    s a m e    address stamp which was used on the Dragoons was used.  This is just plain asinine.  To go through all the effort to  'reproduce'  these, and not to make them basically authentic ,.  Stamping Colts Patent on the frame, the stamp size of the barrel date stamp is wrong ,.    B a d .

The 2nd Gen Walkers (of which, recently I was able to get ahold of one - not yet in my posession-) are also variable in their 'authentic' geometry.  However, a particular serial range of them are   n e a r l y  identical to the originals.  Fortunately I was able to get one of these.  Thanks in   H U G E   part to LonsesomePigeon (Actually 99% thanks to that maniac!)

So, where I am now is in the process of    t o t a l l y   offloading these imposter Walkers ! ! !   Fortunately, I was able to apply one of them to the 2nd Gen Walker as credit towards the purchase (of which I am quite happy with how the deal went down).

I still have one of those M&^@#%$ F*&@#^% new in the box to offload!  Trust me, that B$%#^&  is , ,

  , ,   outa here!   , as soon as I can get rid of it!

What I d  like to do is trade it, in part or whole, for another BlackBoxer Walker.  One of the other variations of it (5 digit serial etc).

All the bitching aside,  I have 3 other GreyBoxers that perform    v e r y   well!   A WH Dragoon, 1860 Army and a 49 Pocket.  I like these!  Actually, the 60 Army is    v e r y    precise and great looking!

General Discussion / 3rd Gen Serial
« on: September 10, 2017, 04:07:37 PM »
I have a 3rd Gen WH Dragoon.  The serial is:  1163D.   What s  with the   D ?  This is a first for me.  I know that some of the originals had letters indicating various inspector/assembly stuff.


Patersons / Any GreyBoxer Patersons out there?
« on: September 02, 2017, 05:08:13 PM »
I recently learned that Colt Blackpowder Arms Co. did a few standard Patersons  Anyone seen one around?

I d  like to have one. 

I like my collection of, basically, 1 example each of Colt s repeaters.  The Paterson is the only one I don t  have.  , ,

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General Discussion / What I like to do
« on: September 02, 2017, 04:53:26 PM »
Just wanted to share this with all here,-

Go to gun shows and shoots and airshows.

Oh!  , and museums related to same! ,-  Mostly pre 1900 for arms and pre 1970 for aviation (well, except the 747, DC-10, L-1011).

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