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Offline ssb73q

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Re: Finally
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2016, 11:33:20 AM »
Hi Kirk, if I use any BP as the main charge booster I will just use BP for the whole charge. Larry Pletcher had a series of flintlock tests, I studied his tests and can repeat the details in my sleep. I tried different banking, but saw little difference. There are many aspects of the shooting sports that eluded me. Getting a better locktime for my stonelock rifles is on my bucket list. I tend to be a perfectionist with my interests and working on solving this slow locktime issue keeps me humble and interested. I appreciate any recommendations and help given. Thank you for the suggestions.

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Re: Finally
« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2016, 12:00:07 AM »
Hay there Richard. I had a problem with one of my cap lock Hawken rifles using Prodex. Over and over no "boom" I opened a bottle of Goex an poured 80 grs' down the barrel hammer hits the cap and rifle go's "boom" every time. If your going to get that gun to fire like you want it to try the real black powder and tell us what happens. I love the flint locks. (7&

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Re: Finally
« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2016, 08:16:59 AM »
Richard;

Don't get your hopes up on having instant ignition with your Pedersoli.  Mine is also what I would call slow.  It does not, however, effect my accuracy with the rifle.  It shoots just a well and any rifle I have.  It's really not complicated.  Hold, squeeze, follow through, hit the center of the target.  Not rocket science.  It should be noted that proper form is much more important with slow ignition than with fast, but that does not mean it can't be done. 

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Re: Finally
« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2016, 08:44:47 AM »
Hi rd, as an experienced rifle shooter I don't simply slowly squeeze the trigger and let the rifle discharge surprise me. The discharge surprise is what I teach to new shooters. As an experienced rifle shooter I try to deliberately pull the trigger as the sights are in perfect alignment with the target. That skill comes with practice. That works well for modern and percussion rifles where there is almost zero locktime. The delay with flintlock is another story and I may just need to accept trying to keep the rifle on target as best I can as I pull the flintlock trigger and do as you suggest.

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Re: Finally
« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2016, 11:37:41 AM »
RD, guess you were on another forum; but I do remember you. Richard, anything else different between the pistol and rifles.....drilled touch hole, touch hole liner, patent breech...?

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Re: Finally
« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2017, 05:18:25 PM »
I get basically instant lock time from my Pedersoli Kentucky .50 using real BP main charge.......& don't "ram" the ball/Minnie any harder than absolutely necessary to seat it......tightly packed powder explodes more slowly than a charge that has even minimal "breathing" room between the grains.

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Re: Finally
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2017, 03:04:10 PM »
Every Pedersoli flint long gun I've shot or watched shoot has a rather long dwell time.  Still, it's not rocket science, hold squeeze and follow through,  if you do it right the dwell time doesn't make much if any difference.

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Re: Finally
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2017, 06:21:03 PM »
all it took with mine was increasing the vent diameter, and chamfering the hole a bit.........by the time I hear "click", the main charge is sending the ball downrange.......I must get my wife or grandson to film this so I can post it, this rifle has the fastest ignition sequence ive ever seen.

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Re: Finally
« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2017, 08:40:19 PM »
CPD, I would like to see that. Please do it if you can.
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Re: Finally
« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2018, 11:36:47 AM »
I realize this is an old post however I am seeing two reasons you are having trouble with this gun firing.

1. Traditions flint locks have a terrible reputation of firing delays.
2. Every experienced Flintlock shooter I know will tell you that you must use real BLACK in them. Some get away with using BLACK in the pan.

I would start using real black powder and changing the lock.

Good luck.
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Re: Finally
« Reply #25 on: April 16, 2018, 05:46:23 PM »
I have draw-filed and polished the internal plate and parts of most of my rock locks. Relieve any rubbing parts like the main spring (so it doesn't rub on the plate), and tumbler. Some I have "engine turned" as it tends to hold lube. All this increases lock speed. Lock geometry also enters into the picture as it can hinder ignition speed too. The flint should strike the frizzen no more than 1/3 down the frizzen (or so I have been told!). Sometimes this is as simple as turning the flint bevel up or down.