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Title: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: ssb73q on October 31, 2015, 01:22:16 PM
Hi, What's the point of having this message board? There is so little activity, it becomes a waste of time to even visit here to see if there is anything new.

Johnnie hates Colts, so why even have a message board for them?  L@J L@J L@J

IMO, shut it down. What do you think?

Regards,
Richard
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: mike116 on October 31, 2015, 04:17:16 PM
Hi Richard,   I can understand that point of view but I really don't think any of the regular posters here really feel that it should shut down.   If a person thinks it's a waste of time to check in here then why would they?   The Remington snobs have more activity due to the fact they need to keep reassuring each other that they are not missing out by not owning any Colt pattern revolvers.   Fact is Colt owners are secure enough they don't need the support of hundreds of other like minded individuals.  In fact I find there are a couple Remington forum posters that keep my participation to a minimum.  (Johnnie is not one of them).   I don't have that problem here.   We may not have a lot of activity here but we don't have any rude "know it all" individuals who buy all their stuff in the "bargain cave" either.
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: Fingers McGee on October 31, 2015, 04:28:56 PM
What he ^ said.

Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: Muttly on October 31, 2015, 05:24:42 PM
I am new here so dont know much about the stats here. But I do find it being a slower pace nice for me. All forums are taking a hit due to social media like facebook etc. I am a administrator on a fishing wite with over 70k members and let me tell you being big is not always fun.
Even that site is slowed way way down due to social media.
I would liek to see a bit more posting here as I do like to read. So I am enjoying reading all the threads posted in the time being. Shutting down naw to much here in reality to do that.
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: Captainkirk on October 31, 2015, 07:21:45 PM
It's partly my fault as the admin, I have not been pushing it here as this is sort of my slow season for BP and it's been a slow year in general. Shut it down? Not a chance. If it's too slow for you Richard, either post more or hang out at the Remmy joint until we get busy again. L@J
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: ssb73q on November 01, 2015, 03:33:20 AM
Hi Captain, post more? Posting here is like pissing in the wind. Other than Mike, few others ever reply. I'd have as much interaction with Mike just using email. Sometimes I double post Colt here and the Remmy board just to get a little discussion going somewhere. There is more activity posting about Colts on the Remmy board than here. Even hearing Johnnie trash Colts provides more activity for Colts than here.

IMO if people really want a separate Colt message board, then step up the activity and lets start exchanging information. I don't think that everything about Colts has already been said where this message board is simply an archive.

 ^j) ^j) ^j) ^j) ^j) ^j) ^j) ^j)

Regards,
Richard
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: Hawg on November 01, 2015, 06:59:24 AM
I don't come here much because quite frankly I keep forgetting about it.
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: scooby on November 01, 2015, 11:51:40 AM
 It does get awful quiet on this forum for extended spells Richard. I also will take some blame for not responding to posts as often as I should.

Lately, I have attempted to add to other's posts only if I have pertinent info and input to add. But I have also been somewhat disengaged with forums in general for a while. This is the only forum that I post  on any more. But my lack of participation is not personal.
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: ssb73q on November 01, 2015, 12:17:12 PM
Hi scooby, IMO you have been much better than the average forum member in posting replies which have always been appreciated.

If frosts me sometimes when a newbie will ask a question that the group replies to and then you never see that member post again. Many the times I have seen a member's problem solved by another member and then not even a thank you.

I highly value your postings.  L@. L@. L@.

Regards,
Richard
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: scooby on November 01, 2015, 12:42:23 PM
Why, thanks for the kind words Richard.

And with hopes of not singling out any new member, nor being rude, I have took note that many join, make a short introduction, and then are never heard from again. I often wonder why they ever join in the first place. Ya know, their are times when I understand very little about human nature.  :)
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: Dellbert on November 01, 2015, 07:20:51 PM
Hello Richard!! I show up here from time to time. I like to read the post and talk less. I'll talk Colts with you. I have a few here I like to shoot. If I ask a question someone has always give me some good advice. Like on the thread about filing the V in the hammer of a Colt to bring the POI down. I signed in here cause Remmie forum is running quite tonight. Looks like everybody is hanging out over here.
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: Captainkirk on November 01, 2015, 07:39:22 PM
Richard, reading back at my reply to you,it sounds rather flippant...it wasn't meant to be. Sometimes (especially in the middle of deer archery season) I just run out of things to say regarding BP in general (not just Colts) and sort of rely on others to pick up the slack. I think we all do this from time to time. Thanks for keeping the wheels turning while some of us are slacking. :)
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: Dellbert on November 01, 2015, 07:44:29 PM
CK you run out of steam to do you? (7+"
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: 45 Dragoon on November 01, 2015, 08:16:21 PM
Yes,  .  .  .  .  .  yes we do!

I'll see if I can do more  posting and help cappy out.

Just for the heck of it, who would like to see some "factory  converted" Dragoons/ Walkers? I mean real " let's go hunting, let's shoot long distance, with some Ruger only loads?!! Real live  modern Open Tops!!!
Why should the RM's , '71/'72 OT's and such be the only "modern" OTs?
 Just askin.

Mike
www.goonsgunworks.com
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: Muttly on November 01, 2015, 09:22:27 PM
I would like to see it.
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: StrawHat on November 02, 2015, 04:52:21 AM
I like this board.  I read all of the threads, and if I have something to say, I write it down.  Sometimes, members may not like what I write, I am okay with that as I do not write anything to hurt feelings.  Merely my opinion.  Work has kept me from the fields this year except for once or twice.  I have probably fired less on those two outings than most of you do it the first 10 minutes at the range.  Just my way.  I like to read about the experiments and am following the one on the 22 conversion.  Interesting, but not my cup of tea.  Same with the meat smoking, I like to eat it but have never prepared it.  I still read about it.

Between work and life, it takes up a bit of my time.

That is probably the most I have written since I joined.

Kevin
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: Mad Dog Stafford on November 02, 2015, 06:49:35 AM
I like both of the forums. There are members that are on this forum and not on the other forum.
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: sltm1 on November 02, 2015, 07:44:34 AM
I check in here every morning, but if I don't have anything to add to a post I don't just run my mouth for exercise. I don't do any form of social media for the same reason. Personally I run through my morning site checks like folks used to read the newspaper in the old days. If this site weren't here I'd miss it cause occasionally there as some nuggets posted and even some things I can
share might be informative to others. So keep it rolling Capt'n !!!
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: mike116 on November 02, 2015, 08:49:51 AM
Yes,  .  .  .  .  .  yes we do!

I'll see if I can do more  posting and help cappy out.

Just for the heck of it, who would like to see some "factory  converted" Dragoons/ Walkers? I mean real " let's go hunting, let's shoot long distance, with some Ruger only loads?!! Real live  modern Open Tops!!!
Why should the RM's , '71/'72 OT's and such be the only "modern" OTs?
 Just askin.

Mike
www.goonsgunworks.com

Let's see em Mike.   May not be my thing but there is always room for discussion. 
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: Mad Dog Stafford on November 02, 2015, 09:11:41 AM
Yeah, I would like to see them too.  L@.
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: Captainkirk on November 02, 2015, 07:19:37 PM
Mike, you know I'd be up for that! Go for it!
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: Dellbert on November 03, 2015, 11:28:06 AM
I may be late but you got another vote. VOTE! is that word aloud on here? :-X
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: Captainkirk on November 03, 2015, 05:49:30 PM
As long as you're pullin' for the right team (and if you are here, I know you are)
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: 45 Dragoon on November 03, 2015, 09:45:52 PM
Well, I'm sure they would be a hit and thanks for the response.

 I'm thinking at least the first run would be "tuned " and set up for target/hunting ( frame feature) on the 3rd Mod.Dragoon.
The target "frame feature" is a solid lock device for the barrel lug/frame area. Should out shoot most competition.

Mike
www.goonsgunworks.com
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: G Dog on November 04, 2015, 07:09:55 PM
  The Remington snobs have more activity due to the fact they need to keep reassuring each other that they are not missing out by not owning any Colt pattern revolvers.   
Do you really think thatís the case Mike?  I never thought of that.  Iím inclined to disagree but maybe there is something to it.  I love my Colts and my Remingtons too and I quit trying to pick a favorite a long time ago as a fruitless activity (although for me, nothing Ďholdsí like a sixty). As far as Ďinsecureí goes - Ima stranger to it. I will watch for that over at í58 but I havenít noticed it yet.   



Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: G Dog on November 04, 2015, 07:15:40 PM
Shut it down? Not a chance.

Iím very glad to hear that. This is a valuable forum.  It's both a lot of fun and very informative.

Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: mike116 on November 04, 2015, 07:43:12 PM
  The Remington snobs have more activity due to the fact they need to keep reassuring each other that they are not missing out by not owning any Colt pattern revolvers.   
Do you really think thatís the case Mike?  I never thought of that.  Iím inclined to disagree but maybe there is something to it.  I love my Colts and my Remingtons too and I quit trying to pick a favorite a long time ago as a fruitless activity (although for me, nothing Ďholdsí like a sixty). As far as Ďinsecureí goes - Ima stranger to it. I will watch for that over at í58 but I havenít noticed it yet.

No G Dog I don't think that is an entirely accurate statement.   I made it sort of tongue-in-cheek in response to Richards post which I viewed as a bit of an attempt to enliven talk on this forum.   I do think that some of the"Remington only" crowd have a bit of an inferiority complex when it comes to the overall popularity of Colt revolvers compared to Remingtons.   
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: scooby on November 04, 2015, 10:46:00 PM
I hear and understand what both Mike and Gdog are saying. You men that know me have no doubt that I am a died in the wool Colt enthusiasts. I can spend time justifying why, but I have already done so enough times on the forums that there is no further need.

I do in fact own 3 Remington percussion shooters and use them regularly. They fit in with my historical interests just as any CSA revolver does.

But with that, I will add the following opinions.

1. I could care less which one is the better design and would not own one over the other based on such trivial matters. For Petes sake, if it is such a concern, stick to a cartridge revolver.

2. If you can't deal with the occasional cap jam of a Colt, you likely are not proficient with tools of the past.

3. If you tried a flintlock rifle and settled for percussion instead, you likely prefer the Remington.

4. If you feel you can shoot a Remington accurately but not a Colt, you have some work to do on your fundamentals.

5. A Colt is no more accurate than a Remington and vice versa.

6. Apply a historical mind set when messing with historical type firearms and you just might find a rewarding harmony with your endeavors. All of these black powder arms have an appeal if one would stop focusing on what the original designer should have done.

7. Negative opinion claiming that Colts are unreliable has less value than 10 year old fruit cake. If one buys into such propaganda, rather than rely on their experience, they fall into the follower category.

8. Apply a bit more critical thinking and objective reasoning to this game. It leads to self reliance.

Perhaps I have spoken some strong words, but my intent was to influence those that might read this post that are still sitting on the fence trying to decide what side to step on. I mean no offense though to anyone.

(Added afterwards),,,,  I will clarify my last statement regarding what side of the fence to step on. By that, I mean the modern mindset versus a historical one, not Colt versus Remington.
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: Dellbert on November 05, 2015, 12:30:01 AM
I believe anyone can shoot a Remington revolver and shoot it well. I just happen to like the Colts because they give me a challenge by making  me haft to learn how to shoot the gun good enough to be able to hit with it. I have more Colt than Remington revolver's and each one are just plan fun. As for Johnnie, the guy is 80 years old for goodness sake and I just over look his comments to the point that I passed by his post. You can't change a 80 year old mind set. If we get the chance to be his age you tell me how one of these young dudes is going to come along with the ideas they have now days and change our minds, good luck to them.
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: StrawHat on November 05, 2015, 03:34:24 AM
Learning stuff everyday.  Just heard there is a forum for top strappers!  Who'd a thought?

Me, I learned a long time ago that the grip frame of the Remington revolver was not a good fit in my hand.  So, for the next 5 decades, I have preferred the grip frame of the Open Top revolver. 

But, I am enjoying this thread.

Kevin
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: mike116 on November 05, 2015, 05:03:33 AM
I own and shoot anything that strikes my fancy.   I have Colt, Remington and other designs.   Johnnie Roper not withstanding I have not been enjoying the Remington forum as much lately.   Maybe that is being reflected here.   I expect things will settle down and I will return to posting on the Remington board again, so until then I'll try to keep my disappointment with that forum out of my comments here. 
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: ssb73q on November 05, 2015, 08:07:11 AM
Hi, IMO the best thing we can do for this message board is that anytime there is a post on a Colt on the Remmy board invite the poster to post their Colt posting here. A little confession is required by me. I started this thread to juice up the troops to post more. That worked. I would miss this message board if it closed.

Regards,
Richard
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: mike116 on November 05, 2015, 08:52:51 AM
I kinda thought that was the case Richard.  It did work and I'm happy about it.   I have always posted on both boards but you are right,  there is a lot of Colt discussion going on in other places that would fit here perfectly.
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: Captainkirk on November 05, 2015, 11:01:44 AM
Invite away, lads. Anyone who is already a member in good standing over there will be automatically registered by myself without having to go through the verification process.
In fact, that's probably the best thing you all could do for this board...if you see an opening, make the extra step. I've made numerous appeals to the membership over there, but they don't always get read, or go to the bottom of the heap over time.
And a personal invite is almost always taken as bearing more weight than a general 'blanket post' call to arms.
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: Dellbert on November 05, 2015, 10:31:10 PM
Every time I use a Colt I'm learning something.
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: ssb73q on November 06, 2015, 03:30:20 AM
Every time I use a Colt I'm learning something.

Hi Dellbert, interesting point. Most any inexperienced person can use an 1858 Remington, but to effectively use a Colt requires some experience and a good understanding of the Colt's theory of operation. The Colt can be initially very frustrating to a newbie, cap sucking being the biggest hurdle, the wedge the second. However, once mastered, the Colt is a naturally pointing handgun with exceptional accuracy. The removable barrel of the Colt allows easy cleaning and inspection of the barrel.

IMO the Colts are for real men, the Remmies for boys. Take that Johnnie.  (@+ (@+ (@+

Regards,
Richard
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: 45 Dragoon on November 06, 2015, 06:49:49 AM
Well,
 A properly set up open top will out run a Remie many times over. They will easily shoot 50-60 rounds without binding. I know of one fellow that got 160+ rounds each .  .  . no cap jams .  .  .  no binding .  .  .  .  from a pair of open tops  .  .  .  .  over a weeks time , with nothing more than wiping down the exterior at the end of the day, no disassembly.
 Can't argue with that!!
 Open tops can be as reliable as any modern handgun.

Mike
www.goonsgunworks.com
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: scooby on November 06, 2015, 07:30:15 AM
Dragoon, based on what I have heard from reports by others, the set up that you do to a Colt using your advanced experience and understanding of mechanics and tolerances of the design does in fact make them just as reliable as a  modern handgun.
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: mike116 on November 06, 2015, 08:50:31 AM
Yep Scooby,  I have heard the same thing.  I have been trying to decide which one of my guns I would like to have worked over by Mike.   I want to see first hand what Mike does with an open top.   I'm just afraid if I have one done I will want to send more.   I have a Pietta 1860 Army that needs some help.   Maybe I should send him that one.
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: Dellbert on November 08, 2015, 01:27:02 AM
Richard! we need to put Johnnie to rest. No reason to drag it out. Don't think he'll show up here. *k)
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: sourdough on January 18, 2016, 05:30:38 PM
I normally don't visit the forums in the first section (such as this one: The Suggestion Box) but finally noticed the title and the Q by ssb73q and was surprised: he has posted a bit more than I have and I enjoy his posts and respond in kind.

I normally go to the next section first and look for new posts on the various pistol categories. I, for one, am interested in historic info on all Colt type C&B revolvers, original, replica, or "fantasy". I'm a newbie and am striving to build my library in order to discuss things intelligently. I enjoy this forum immensely and, to those who wish it goes away, my Q is: where the hell are you gonna go to discuss such things? 1858 Remmy? Colt Forum? TFR? THR?

I am not downing those sites a bit. This forum and this http://blackpowdersmoke.com/revolvers/index.php is where it is at, IMO.

What is needed is for folks to stop lurking and post good information for study, whether it is original Colts, replica Colts, Confederate copies, Pockets, Walkers, Dragoons, 1855's, et al, and include documentation. It is all interesting to folks like me who crave something new.

IMO, don't worry if what you post may not be correct. If you are wrong, most of the old-timers will chide you politely, and NO ONE on this forum is an absolute expert.

I will do my best insofar as that goes. I am outta here and will concentrate on the specific categories in the second section.

Jim
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: mo58 on January 20, 2016, 02:17:26 PM
Sorry if Im intruding as a newbie here. 
Fun, knowledgeable tic for tac is a useful part of any entertaining and/or educational conversation  ...But..true bickering about these ancient revolvers? Just plain silly IMO.


Took a young friend out shooting a couple times ...hes a tinkerer, into old locks n other mechanical things. We shot a bunch of my guns and as I predicted, he was AS interested in solving issues, experimenting with loads, taking them apart, etc as he was flawlessly firing six shots dead on target.  Month later, I got a text from him with a pic of an AR that he proudly milled out. First gun hes owned and he had not shot it yet...he wanted to go shooting...go figure.  We shot all his ammo and then he proceeded to load and shoot my good old problematic cap n ball pistols for a couple hours...with the biggest grin on his face.  Curiosity, logic, fun ...combine em and you really got SOMETHING  :)
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: Captainkirk on January 20, 2016, 03:11:50 PM
Sorry if Im intruding as a newbie here. 
Not at all! Jump right in.
Title: Re: What's the point of having this message board?
Post by: G Dog on January 21, 2016, 11:08:00 PM
bickering about these ancient revolvers? Just plain silly IMO.

Itís not Ďbickeringí really, nor silly either.  Itís more in the nature of the perennial Chevy/Ford discussion, only way more important and interesting.  Itíll never end.  And long life to it, too.  Coltís and Remís go together like peas and carrots.  I just love fussiní over em with a highly knowledgeable and good natured outfit (meaning all of you-uns).