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Title: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: ShotgunDave on December 22, 2018, 04:24:05 PM
Hey guys, just thought I'd show off my new Uberti L&R. She's a real beauty! Smoothest, tightest revolver I own. It locks up like a bank vault and the action is like a Swiss watch. The previous owner fitted a new cylinder to it, without the roll engraving. It looks much closer to an original now. Hope you enjoy the pictures.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4825/32552978138_f7124f3602_z.jpg)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7911/46424637461_7c1963280b_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: scooby on December 22, 2018, 07:37:26 PM
Nice pics Dave. I have the same revolver. I went ahead and removed the cylinder roll engraving myself. Like you, I prefered a closer representative to the original.
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: Hawg on December 22, 2018, 08:12:10 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: ShotgunDave on December 22, 2018, 09:36:08 PM
Thanks Gents. I'll give a full report after I put some lead downrange with it.

I have to say, I really like it here. I have a pretty good collection of pistols now. I'll be posting more pictures as the days go by.
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: ssb73q on December 23, 2018, 03:59:24 AM
Hi Dave, very nice looking revolver. Does that model have the typical Uberti short arbor?

I look forward to your shooting report.

Regards,
Richard
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: GaryC on December 23, 2018, 08:01:22 AM
Hi Dave,

That is a pretty revolver.  I can't tell for sure in the photo but is the front sight dovetailed?
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: Hawg on December 23, 2018, 09:26:36 AM
That looks like a Remington sight. L&R's had a Colt style cone.
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: ShotgunDave on December 23, 2018, 10:18:29 AM
Hi Dave, very nice looking revolver. Does that model have the typical Uberti short arbor?

I look forward to your shooting report.

Regards,
Richard

Thank you Sir. The arbor on this gun does appear to be short. I will be addressing that shortly.

Hi Dave,

That is a pretty revolver.  I can't tell for sure in the photo but is the front sight dovetailed?

Thanks Gary. The front sight isn't dovetailed. Hawg is correct, it has a Remington type short sight on it, that was installed by the previous owner. It does offer a really nice sight picture, but I will be removing it in favor of the original brass bead. I believe the original sight is under the Remington one. I think it is just glued on top of the bead. Should be an easy fix.
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: Hawg on December 23, 2018, 12:38:34 PM
I'm betting they removed the original sight and soldered that one in.
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: ShotgunDave on December 23, 2018, 03:48:14 PM
I'm betting they removed the original sight and soldered that one in.

I hope you're not right. LOL! But we'll find out here pretty quick.
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: ShotgunDave on March 01, 2019, 12:48:54 PM
Well, Hawg was half correct. The original sight was removed, but the Remmie style sight was epoxied on. It literally fell off while I was handling the gun.


(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7810/46363719024_b00cfaf7d8_z.jpg)


So I cleaned it up real good and soldered a brass bead on like original. Except I left it taller so I can sight it in.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7866/46363718804_5ab704049c_z.jpg)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7834/46363718884_229f93e3e1_z.jpg)


Much better.

This week, I also corrected the short arbor situation. I measured how short it was and cut a small button from some steel stock. Then I soldered it on the end of the arbor and dressed it with a file until everything fit. The gun is very tight now and has a .003 cylinder clearance, that is 100% repeatable by pounding the wedge in. Hopefully the rain will stay away this weekend so I can go shoot it.
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: tljack on March 01, 2019, 03:50:40 PM
After reading about your new piece, I went to check on mine. I could not locate it. I was sure I had on. Checked my inventory records and dang if I do not!!
Guess I am in need of one!!  Checked Gun Broker and they have two. high priced. Dixie has them on sale for fair price but with 1851 Navy cylinders. All they did was build that revolver with a round barrel.

Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: ShotgunDave on March 01, 2019, 04:22:31 PM
The L&R is hit and miss on GB. If you get the one from Dixie, I think a spare cylinder is available without engraving. I'm not sure how mine ended up with a plain cylinder, I got it this way. But I do not believe the engraving was removed. The bluing on it is as nice as the barrel. Right now, this is my favorite pistol.
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: G Dog on March 01, 2019, 04:45:32 PM
I continue to wonder why Pietta doesn't offer a L&R.  They have all the parts - a round barrel assembly and plain cylinder from their Griswold to just put on a '51 frame. If they ever start selling those I'd snag me one ever so fast. 

Those are one hella good lookin revolver, like yours Shotgun.
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: Dellbert on March 01, 2019, 08:44:27 PM
Hi Dave, that is IMO, the finest looking revolver they make, even better with the plain cylinder. It almost remines me of a mini Walker.
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: ShotgunDave on March 02, 2019, 10:31:09 AM
Thanks Fellas. I agree, the L&R is just a good looking gun.

This one is my favorite of all my guns. It just feels good in the hand and it runs like a Swiss watch now. No rattles, smooth and tight.

Pietta really could bring one to market very easily. And I'd snatch one up too G Dog.
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: sourdough on March 04, 2019, 12:52:03 PM
I continue to wonder why Pietta doesn't offer a L&R.  They have all the parts - a round barrel assembly and plain cylinder from their Griswold to just put on a '51 frame. If they ever start selling those I'd snag me one ever so fast. 

Those are one helluva good lookin' revolver, like yours Shotgun.

G Dog, you must have the patience of Job if you think Pietta is ever going to market a L&R! I emailed Pietta a few times a couple of years ago about it, and the best response was something like "We'll think about it".

I think I will be dead and gone before that happens, so I decided to do it on my own. I bought a Pietta 1851 Navy .36 steel [CP] (2016) on a one-day sale from Cabela's for $170 shipped (yeah, back in the recent dark ages!), and now I have a Traditions Pietta 1851 Navy .36 steel [CT] (2018) I bought from Old South for $219 shipped. I bought the Traditions gun because I had heard that they were the cream of the Piettas (not), so I kept it intact to remind me of that fact.

I also bought a Pietta G&G [CN] (2015) from Cabela's for $220 shipped, and I think that may have been one of the last ones shipped from Sidney NE as Cabela's never offered it online again. When I got it, the first thing that came to mind was L&R!

Early last year I decided to use the Cabela's gun for my L&R, and I bought a Pietta smooth cylinder ($95) and a Pietta part octagon/part round barrel ($125) from VTI Gun Parts. I used the load-lever/rammer assembly, the wedge, and the wedge screw from the octagon barrel for the new barrel assembly. (Pietta 1851 Navy .36 "type" guns are like Legos.)

http://www.vtigunparts.com/store/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=66&cat=Pietta+1851+Navy

My Pietta L&R:

(https://i.ibb.co/23pWS29/Pietta-Leech-Rigdon.jpg) (https://ibb.co/v4MVh5F)

The same barrel assembly/cylinder on my Pietta 1851 Navy 2nd Model .36 [CM] (2014) "tail" grip profile (my fantasy belt-size 1851 Navy Dragoon 2nd Model):

(https://i.ibb.co/160CwFf/Pietta-1851-Navy-Dragoon.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sHgTM8v)

The octagon barrel and engraved cylinder found a new home.

I am well satisfied.

Regards,

Jim

Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: Captainkirk on March 04, 2019, 12:57:25 PM
I am well satisfied.

As you should be. Nice work, Jim.
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: sourdough on March 04, 2019, 03:57:41 PM
Cap, thanks for the reply!

If one chooses to acquire a Pietta G&G for the barrel and cylinder only, EMF is the only source that I know of these days. As of today they are again out of stock, but last week they were in stock. That leads me to think that they are somewhat in demand and sell out quickly. Their price is $275 plus shipping. If one wants one get on their backorder want list.

Cabela's could sell a ton of them, but BPS seems to be lessening Cabela's stock of everything.

Glad I got mine.

Regards,

Jim
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: ssb73q on May 26, 2019, 04:04:30 AM
Hi, a new Uberti Leech & Rigdon was purchased from Dixie Gun Works:

https://www.dixiegunworks.com/index/page/product/product_id/8657/product_name/RH0611+Uberti+Leech+and+Rigdon+Revolver

Externally the revolver is perfect in fit and finish. However, the internal parts show cost cutting by Uberti. The hand has burrs and the bolt face is very rough where it wouldn't be long before the cylinder bolt slot lead-ins were chewed up. The revolver is timed properly, but a bit rough. The revolver was made in 2017 and has no visible markings (date code, proof marks, etc.) other than the serial number on the exposed part of the frame. The date code and proof marks are hidden on the bottom of the frame that is covered by the brass trigger guard. The only barrel markings are on the bottom of the barrel.

Interesting that this Uberti revolver arbor and barrel arbor hole are tapered. The lockup with the wedge is very tight, in fact so tight that removing the barrel is difficult. The loading lever is required to pry the barrel off the frame. I wonder if this arbor taper is Uberti's solution to a short arbor? Other than adding a arbor length set screw, I may leave this taper alone that will probably loosen some with revolver use.

A reduced power spring will be installed in the revolver, the bolt face polished, and the hand deburred. I'm still not sure what I will do with the engraving on the cylinder.

The new revolver:

Regards,
Richard
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: Hawg on May 26, 2019, 04:32:23 AM
Cabela's could sell a ton of them, but BPS seems to be lessening Cabela's stock of everything.

Cabela's used to sell a lot of different models.  I can take my G&G and 51 navy and make a L&R or a S&G.
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: ShotgunDave on May 26, 2019, 10:22:50 AM
She's a real beauty Richard, mechanical issues aside.

It looks like it has a nice piece of wood on it too.

I'm interested to know how you resolve the cylinder scene too.
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: sourdough on May 26, 2019, 06:07:57 PM
Cabela's used to sell a lot of different models.  I can take my G&G and 51 navy and make a L&R or a S&G.

I have done the same. I thought I made that point but maybe I did not make it clear.

Regards,

Jim
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: Hawg on May 26, 2019, 08:49:28 PM
Cabela's used to sell a lot of different models.  I can take my G&G and 51 navy and make a L&R or a S&G.

I have done the same. I thought I made that point but maybe I did not make it clear.

Regards,

Jim

You did as far as the L&R but I didn't see a reference to the S&G.
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: ssb73q on May 27, 2019, 04:12:34 AM
Hi, all the internal issues with the new Leech & Rigdon have been fixed. The reduced power spring installed, internal parts polished, and a set screw was used to lengthen the arbor to create a 0.004" cylinder/barrel gap with the C&B cylinder and a 0.003" gap with conversion cylinder. The brass was polished and a dovetail sight for an 1858 was installed. The sight will need to be filed down to have poi=poa @25yds. The revolver now cycles as smooth as a fine Swiss watch. Still thinking on what to do with that engraved cylinder.

Some photos:

Regards,
Richard
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: Dellbert on May 27, 2019, 09:32:20 AM
That one looks really good Richard. I like the Pietta you put together sourdough. I thought about putting one together a while back, with cash being so tight now I don't see that happening any time soon. I do have a Uberti Colt 51 that is a fine gun that is in fine shape, it just needs the arbor needs to be lengthen other than that it's one of my best shooters. I don't want to fire it any more till that is fixed. You got me wanting to buy that Pietta round barrel and put it on my steel frame 51 now. I looked on VTIs web site and found the barrel I need to fix it up. Will put that on my to do list and go from there.
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: ShotgunDave on May 27, 2019, 10:14:59 AM
Nice work Richard, as always.

If I may ask, why did you go with a 1858 front sight? It's funny because mine had that sight on it when I got it. I removed it and put a brass bead back on. I do like that you used a steel dovetail on this one. I'm not a fan of the brass ones.
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: ssb73q on May 27, 2019, 11:06:08 AM
Hi Dave, funny you mention the front sight. I must be living right because just after I cut my dovetail in the barrel, I saw that the 1858 sight fit perfectly, it drifted right in without any modification. I had a tall brass front dovetail sight ready to go, but why bother when the steel sight fit perfectly without requiring any further work. I widened and deepened the rear sight aperture using a dremel cutoff wheel.

BTW, I fixed that taper arbor issue that had the barrel very difficult to remove after hammering the wedge in hard. A little fine file work and 400 grit sandpaper polishing work did the trick to narrow the tapered arbor by ~0.001" allowing the barrel to be easily removed after the wedge is pulled. Since I'm still mulling over what to do with my cylinder, I put antiseize on the nipple threads. I'm going to check some dimensions on one of my extra plain 1851 Pietta cylinders. The plain Pietta 1851 cylinder may work after shortening it to Uberti 1851 cylinder length. A project for another day.

As soon as the black flies die and go to hell, I will test fire the L&R and adjust the front sight height. Laser boresighting shows the front sight is now too tall and will need to filed down.

Regards,
Richard
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: sourdough on May 27, 2019, 11:40:28 AM
Cabela's used to sell a lot of different models.  I can take my G&G and 51 navy and make a L&R or a S&G.

I have done the same. I thought I made that point but maybe I did not make it clear.

Regards,

Jim

You did as far as the L&R but I didn't see a reference to the S&G.

Hawg, the revolvers you used as a base for the L&R and the S&G is what I did, but to create a more accurate S&G one will need to have another smooth, non-engraved cylinder (which I ordered from VTI) in order to have both pistols at the same time.

Jim

Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: Hawg on May 27, 2019, 12:46:14 PM
Cabela's used to sell a lot of different models.  I can take my G&G and 51 navy and make a L&R or a S&G.

I have done the same. I thought I made that point but maybe I did not make it clear.

Regards,

Jim

You did as far as the L&R but I didn't see a reference to the S&G.

Hawg, the revolvers you used as a base for the L&R and the S&G is what I did, but to create a more accurate S&G one will need to have another smooth, non-engraved cylinder (which I ordered from VTI) in order to have both pistols at the same time.

Jim

This is true.
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: sourdough on May 27, 2019, 03:18:09 PM
Mine.

(https://i.ibb.co/L1DcFWt/Pietta-L-R-S-G.png) (https://ibb.co/NKgJvPj)

Jim
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: ssb73q on May 28, 2019, 09:57:52 AM
Hi, I decided to buy a new Uberti 1851 cylinder and remove the engraving for my Leech and Rigdon. The cylinder will then be nitre blued trying to match the bluing darkness of the revolver barrel.

One nice thing about the 38 Colt/ 38 Special conversion cylinder is that there is no engraving, the cylinder is plain.

Getting a new revolver is like dropping money into sinkhole. LOL

Regards,
Richard
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: ShotgunDave on May 28, 2019, 11:57:27 AM

......Getting a new revolver is like dropping money into sinkhole. LOL

Regards,
Richard

No Truer words were ever spoken Richard!  (7+"
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: ssb73q on May 28, 2019, 02:45:16 PM
Hi, I just received a short book about the Leech & Rigdon revolver:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-ORIGINAL-CONFEDERATE-COLT-CIVIL-WAR-WEAPON-BRAND-NEW-MINT-CONDITON/303108671282?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

IMO this is a must have book for anyone interested in the Leech & Rigdon revolver.

Regards,
Richard
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: sourdough on May 29, 2019, 10:51:45 AM
Richard,

I have that book, also. Paid $20 for it 3 years ago.

As you stated, it is a good but short read. All of the photos (except one set) are in the appendix.

Albaugh does have a considerable Confederate sympathizer slant to his writings.

Regards,

Jim
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: sourdough on May 29, 2019, 04:10:21 PM
My Pietta Rigdon & Ansley with my Pietta G&G.

Regards,

Jim


(https://i.ibb.co/ZVTgmkN/Pietta-Rigdon-Ansley-Pietta-G-G.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Tkh0LFr)
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: ssb73q on May 30, 2019, 03:58:15 AM
Hi Jim, nice set of revolvers. I notice that your Leech & Ridgon has the plain cylinder with twelve bolt slots, nice. Too bad that Uberti doesn't take the L&R seriously.

Regards,
Richard
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: ssb73q on May 30, 2019, 10:22:49 AM
Hi, the Uberti 1851 cylinder for the new Leech & Ridgon just came in the door. The nipples were removed and the cylinder degreased in paint thinner and then acetone. A 3" 7/16-14 flat head bolt is being used for an arbor to file the engraving off the cylinder. I selected a flat head bolt because I wanted the cone to precisely center the cylinder on the bolt arbor. It turned out that bolt is a perfect slip fit in the cylinder arbor hole, even needed to file off a couple of high spots to have the bolt rigidly fit inside the cylinder. The engraving will be filed off using a minilathe. The cylinder is now soaking in vinegar to remove the original bluing. A couple of photos:

Regards,
Richard
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: Captainkirk on May 30, 2019, 10:34:01 AM
You go, Richard! &\?
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: ShotgunDave on May 30, 2019, 11:15:18 AM
Excellent solution. I'm tuned in to see how this all works out.

Thanks for keeping us in the loop Richard.
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: sourdough on May 30, 2019, 11:21:00 AM
Richard,

I am very curious (and anxious) to see how that turns out.

As to your previous post, Pietta doesn't even produce a L&R. Mine is a Navy with G&G barrel and cylinder from VTI.

That's how easy it would be for Pietta, with off-the-shelf parts, to produce one.

Regards,

Jim
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: Hawg on May 30, 2019, 11:44:33 AM
Hi, the Uberti 1851 cylinder for the new Leech & Ridgon just came in the door. The nipples were removed and the cylinder degreased in paint thinner and then acetone. A 3" 7/16-14 flat head bolt is being used for an arbor to file the engraving off the cylinder. I selected a flat head bolt because I wanted the cone to precisely center the cylinder on the bolt arbor. It turned out that bolt is a perfect slip fit in the cylinder arbor hole, even needed to file off a couple of high spots to have the bolt rigidly fit inside the cylinder. The engraving will be filed off using a minilathe. The cylinder is now soaking in vinegar to remove the original bluing. A couple of photos:

Regards,
Richard

Seems to me that anyone that doesn't have access to a lathe could use the same bolt setup and chuck it up in an electric drill and use emery cloth to remove the engraving.
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: Captainkirk on May 30, 2019, 11:56:20 AM
Hi, the Uberti 1851 cylinder for the new Leech & Ridgon just came in the door. The nipples were removed and the cylinder degreased in paint thinner and then acetone. A 3" 7/16-14 flat head bolt is being used for an arbor to file the engraving off the cylinder. I selected a flat head bolt because I wanted the cone to precisely center the cylinder on the bolt arbor. It turned out that bolt is a perfect slip fit in the cylinder arbor hole, even needed to file off a couple of high spots to have the bolt rigidly fit inside the cylinder. The engraving will be filed off using a minilathe. The cylinder is now soaking in vinegar to remove the original bluing. A couple of photos:

Regards,
Richard

Seems to me that anyone that doesn't have access to a lathe could use the same bolt setup and chuck it up in an electric drill and use emery cloth to remove the engraving.
Yep. Or drill press and a file for really quick metal removal. Finish with sandpaper.
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: sourdough on May 30, 2019, 01:49:05 PM
Hi, the Uberti 1851 cylinder for the new Leech & Ridgon just came in the door. The nipples were removed and the cylinder degreased in paint thinner and then acetone. A 3" 7/16-14 flat head bolt is being used for an arbor to file the engraving off the cylinder. I selected a flat head bolt because I wanted the cone to precisely center the cylinder on the bolt arbor. It turned out that bolt is a perfect slip fit in the cylinder arbor hole, even needed to file off a couple of high spots to have the bolt rigidly fit inside the cylinder. The engraving will be filed off using a minilathe. The cylinder is now soaking in vinegar to remove the original bluing. A couple of photos:

Regards,
Richard

Seems to me that anyone that doesn't have access to a lathe could use the same bolt setup and chuck it up in an electric drill and use emery cloth to remove the engraving.

Since Uberti starts with a plain cylinder which is then rollmarked, I will be interested to see how much steel will have to be removed from the cylinder diameter and how much that affects the stop slot/approach depths.

Jim
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: Hawg on May 30, 2019, 06:26:44 PM
The engraving isn't very deep. I seriously doubt you'll find any difference in lockup.
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: ssb73q on May 31, 2019, 04:18:15 AM
Hi, the bluing removal of the Uberti 1851 cylinder was accomplished by soaking the cylinder in vinegar for 45 minutes, the first photo.

The cylinder was then mounted in my minilathe using the 7/16 bolt described before. Five minutes of file work and ten minutes of different sandpaper grits completed removing the engraving off the cylinder. The cylinder was then polished using Flits on a buffing wheel, the second photo.

Cylinder diameter measurements:

Bolt slots = Before filing 1.534", after filing sanding and polishing 1.5335"
Engraving = Before filing 1.535", after filing sanding and polishing 1.530

Very little metal was removed in the area of the bolt slots, 0.005" from the engraved area. IMO removing that little metal is of no significance.

This morning I will nitre blue the cylinder.

Regards,
Richard
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: ShotgunDave on May 31, 2019, 07:40:59 AM
That is a thing of beauty Richard! Just doing that is going to make your L&R come alive.
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: ssb73q on May 31, 2019, 07:42:58 AM
Hi, the Uberti 1851 cylinder was nitre blued using Brownells Niter Bluing salts. The temperature used was 570 degrees F as measured with a lead thermometer. The cylinder and Historically corrected Leech & Rigdon:

BTW, the cylinder will darken some after a couple of days. This is a write up on my first niter bluing experiment:

http://blackpowdersmoke.com/colt/index.php?topic=2724.msg27590#msg27590

Regards,
Richard
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: ShotgunDave on May 31, 2019, 07:49:54 AM
Nicely done Richard. It looks like it came that way.
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: Captainkirk on May 31, 2019, 08:10:36 AM
Looks great, Richard! (*3
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: ssb73q on May 31, 2019, 08:47:14 AM
Hi guys, thanks for the comments. While the cylinder had a purple look under led lights, it is now darkening to a deeper blue. The niter bluing requires a little aging before the color stabilizes darker.

Regards,
Richard
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: sourdough on May 31, 2019, 11:29:00 AM
Excellent, Richard!

You should be very pleased.

Regards,

Jim
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: ssb73q on June 01, 2019, 04:59:59 AM
Hi, this morning I noticed that the nitre blued cylinder hadn't darkened anymore as expected. It still had a purple cast to it. The Brownells sheet said that 570 deg F was the temperature for a dark blue, but I noticed in the sheet that at a lower temperature the color is purple. I gave the cylinder another shot in the Brownell salts at 590 deg F. The result is outstanding, the cylinder is now a nice dark blue. The photo below show the blued cylinder next to the Leech and Rigdon that has a conversion cylinder mounted in the revolver. Now that's how the bluing should look.

Regards,
Richard
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: ShotgunDave on June 01, 2019, 10:27:32 AM
Yes Sir Richard, that looks mighty fine!
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: Captainkirk on June 01, 2019, 11:48:07 AM
Yes Sir Richard, that looks mighty fine!
Agreed!
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: Fingers McGee on June 02, 2019, 11:38:33 AM
Very, very nice
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: ssb73q on June 04, 2019, 06:31:32 AM
Hi, again, thanks for the kind comments. The Black Flies have died and gone straight to hell so I was able to get the Uberti Leech & Rigdon sighted in @25yds to have poi=poa using 38 Special hollow based wadcutters in a Taylor conversion cylinder. A shooting tripod was used as a rest. It didn't take more than six shots to have the front sight filed down to optimal sighting. I am very impress with the accuracy of the Uberti Leech & Rigdon, I was consistently shooting less than 1.5" groups using the tripod rest. That's damn fine accuracy for a 0.358" bullet where the hollow base skirt engages the rifling. I finished off the box of 38 Special blasting my steel critters shooting one handed.

The revolver front sight was cold blued, cleaned, and ready to put in the safe, a photo:

BTW, this revolver is so accurate that I am thinking of doing a gated conversion on it as soon as I see the Howell gated 38 Colt/38 Special conversion cylinder on sale again.

Regards,
Richard
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: ShotgunDave on June 04, 2019, 08:26:17 AM
Great picture Richard!

I'm also impressed with the accuracy of the L&R pistols.
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: Captainkirk on June 04, 2019, 08:35:15 AM
That came out super-sweet, Richard...as usual! )l_
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: sourdough on June 11, 2019, 12:11:52 PM
I know this is not an Uberti, but I have to put in a plug for my Pietta L&R (which Pietta, sadly, no longer makes). It started out as a Pietta 1851 Navy (CP 2016) and is a parts gun because of that, but Shotgun Dave made me a very sweet deal on nicer wood for it. The original wood was straight grained walnut, but pretty plain. My eyes lit up when Dave offered me this. One coat of BC Tru-Oil and I am waiting for it to cure before using #0000 steel wool and denim to tone the gloss down. The walnut wood has very nice figure for a Pietta and I am surprised at that.

The wood is just a tad undersized for the BS and TG, but I like that for historicity. Griswold & Gunnison as well as Leech & Rigdon original revolvers were known to have undersized wood due to the fact that neither outfit used much seasoned walnut, and the unseasoned greenish wood shrunk a bit in a short period of time.

I have the original wood with a BS and TG for sale on the BP classifieds here. Make an offer, please. If sold then I can get a wood case for my !860 Army.

Regards,

Jim

(https://i.ibb.co/pXdGTzt/Navy-Grip-003.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YjhYSkz)


(https://i.ibb.co/RNfFVTn/Navy-Grip-004.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZS5jkzs)


Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: ShotgunDave on June 11, 2019, 01:47:10 PM
That's a real beauty Jim. That wood just belonged on that pistol. Nice work.
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: tljack on June 11, 2019, 01:59:42 PM
The L&R is hit and miss on GB. If you get the one from Dixie, I think a spare cylinder is available without engraving. I'm not sure how mine ended up with a plain cylinder, I got it this way. But I do not believe the engraving was removed. The bluing on it is as nice as the barrel. Right now, this is my favorite pistol.

I have the other Confederate revolvers. Need this one to fill my collection in. It is important to me to get one with plain cylinder. Best luck with yours!
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: sourdough on June 11, 2019, 04:02:50 PM
I have the other Confederate revolvers. Need this one to fill my collection in. It is important to me to get one with plain cylinder. Best luck with yours!

If you want a Pietta L&R it ain't gonna be cheap. I started with a Cabela's Pietta 1851 Navy a few years ago that I got on a one-day sale for $170. VTI has all the parts you need (plain cylinder, part round/part octagonal barrel).

https://www.vtigunparts.com/store/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=66&cat=Pietta+1851+Navy

The barrel is $125. The plain cylinder is $95. The load lever will work just fine. You will then have leftover parts to sell.

Check stock on all items.

I went that route because Pietta does not market that gun, even though I think they could sell a boatload of them. Pietta sometimes amazes me with missed opportunities.

Regards,

Jim
Title: Re: Uberti Leech & Rigdon
Post by: ShotgunDave on June 11, 2019, 04:20:25 PM
The L&R is hit and miss on GB. If you get the one from Dixie, I think a spare cylinder is available without engraving. I'm not sure how mine ended up with a plain cylinder, I got it this way. But I do not believe the engraving was removed. The bluing on it is as nice as the barrel. Right now, this is my favorite pistol.

I have the other Confederate revolvers. Need this one to fill my collection in. It is important to me to get one with plain cylinder. Best luck with yours!

If you're looking for an Uberti, PM me. Maybe we can make a deal.