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General Discussion / Re: Has everything been said and done?
« on: August 01, 2017, 03:19:29 PM »
I don't shoot as much as I used to, but would like to get out soon and make some soot. I do get my various cap and ball pistols out weekly and clean and fondle them. Just recently installed a Kirst cylinder on one of my Ruger Old Army's. Can't wait to go out and shoot it, but it has just been too d@#m hot, day after day, week after week, over 100 degrees.

Conversions / Re: 1860 Thuer Conversion
« on: July 30, 2017, 05:15:52 PM »
Mike, that is really a nice looking conversion cylinder. I too have checked into Gary's Thuer and have put off buying one. I may have to get one now, I really like the look. Very unique.

Army Models / Re: 1860 Signature Series
« on: July 28, 2017, 08:00:18 PM »
Colt will not letter the 3rd Generation guns, period!

Colt used to letter them. According to the official Colt historian, Paul, on the Colt Archives, quote:

"We do not letter these guns - I believe that we used to, but we do not maintain any of the shipping records, so I think we stopped doing that.

As far as our position, it isn't really a position. The fact is the guns were produced under a licensing agreement with Colt Blackpowder Arms, manufactured to Colt's specifications. Now, does that make it a true Colt or not? I'm sure that debate will never have any consensus. My personal take is that they are not true Colt's, but that they do hold their own place within Colt collecting. Comparable situations would be the Argentine contract 1911's (not the Colt produced ones - the Argentinian produced ones), the Norwegian contract 1911's, the Spanish produced .25 autos, and the current Walther produced .22's."

Richard ,Not sure. I believe the shoulder stock was for the Calvary to be able to ride and shoot
a little more accurately, than hand holding their pistols.
The 1851 .36 was popular with the Navy, thus the name, can't see a sailor on board a saiing
ship, swinging a Dragoon or even a long barreled .44

Actually it got it's name from the caliber. Back then the 51 was described as Colt's revolving pistol of naval caliber. A lot of them were used by ground......ummmm horse forces. :D

The 1851 Colt was also one of most popular belt pistols during the Old West, used well into the cartridge era (some where converted of course).

At The Range! / Re: Great day shooting
« on: July 22, 2017, 05:36:13 PM »
Sounds like the perfect day to me too!

General Discussion / Re: 2nd/3rd Gen similarities
« on: July 21, 2017, 04:39:58 PM »
Hawg, I was just going by one of Dennis Adler's books where he quoted Lou Imperato, owner of Colt Blackpowder Arms, as saying that the Signature Series frames were made at the old Iver Johnson factory in the U.S. and the barrels and cylinders came from Uberti. I believe that the 2nd Gen F Series Colts used some ASM parts. I'd give an exact quote, but the book is buried some where in my garage.

General Discussion / Re: 2nd/3rd Gen similarities
« on: July 21, 2017, 01:34:53 PM »
Mike, the so called 3rd gen Colts, i.e.: the Signature Series guns were made starting in 1994 and manufactured through 2002, not the '80s. The frames were made in the U.S.A. and not Italy, though the cylinders and barrels were. I'd be curious to know if current Uberti internals would fit these guns.

Conversions / Re: Gated Howell 1851 conversion
« on: July 17, 2017, 06:30:11 PM »
I've been following this thread closely, really nice work Richard!

General Discussion / Re: What Colt called them
« on: July 17, 2017, 05:56:14 PM »
Yeah.  The photo thing here is annoying.  I have a lot of photos too.  Maybe I can send some select photos to someones email , ,  here, so they can post them?

Here is a website where you can upload photos from your computer for free. Just upload one at a time and copy the "image" url and paste in a post here.

General Discussion / Re: Colts wonderful spelling!
« on: July 16, 2017, 05:49:53 PM »
Standardized spelling was in a transition during Colt's time. Dictionaries were few and far between. Only 30 years before he invented the Paterson Revolver, "old" was commonly spelled "olde" and "the" was spelled "ye."

Police Models / Re: YES!! YES!!! YES!!!!!
« on: July 06, 2017, 09:56:14 PM »
Yes, I saw it too on the High Road form a few months ago but cannot find the thread now.

General Discussion / Re: My , , arsenal. Newest addition.
« on: July 04, 2017, 10:05:14 PM »
Grey boxes are Colt Signature Series, Black Boxes are Colt 2nd Generation F-Series and Brown Boxes are Colt 2nd Generation C-Series, although I think some of the very early C-Series might have been black boxes.

Correct. The very first C Series 2nd gen Colt's came in black boxes, then tan with a pic of an 1851 on the outside, then brown with a wood print look. The F series were in black boxes with Sam Colt's picture in a small oval on the cover and the Signature Series came in grey boxes.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Say goodby to PhotoBucket
« on: July 02, 2017, 03:41:42 PM »
Yeah, we don't want to lose you posting photos scooby, yours are the best!

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Say goodby to PhotoBucket
« on: July 02, 2017, 12:06:50 PM »
It is still working for me so far. I can't even open up some of the links posted by a few members that use tinypic. As well, most tinypics are quite tiny and I can't even see them. When you post a pic, it should be full sized from the get go. As well, there should be no extra clicks needed that require one to leave the original Colt forum site when you want to see a pic. I often add text below my pics so that the post flows for the reader. That does not happen with tinypic. Now mind you, I am not gonna give photosucket one red cent to post my pics, but I am not gonna settle for second best. If these Internet gurus can't come up with something comparable and simple, I will simply quit posting pics on this forum. I have little patience for the lack of commen sense amongst the typical human. If it is all about money, then they can kiss my Irish ars. I will do things on my own without sharing like I used to do back before all of this Web crap started consuming all of our time.

Scooby, I think you are confusing the small photo attachments with Here is one of my photos uploaded to tinypic. You can even click on it to make it larger:

Army Models / Re: ROA Hand
« on: June 30, 2017, 08:59:38 PM »
I noticed that.

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