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Colt Collecting / INformation on Stainless Steel Uberti Colts
« on: July 10, 2018, 10:57:03 AM »
It's been a while since I've posted this request for info.  Lets see what shakes out.

In the early to mid 1980s, Uberti produced a line of stainless steel percussion Colt revolvers that were imported to the US by Allen Firearms, Santa Fe, NM; Southwest Muzzleloaders Supply, Inc. Angleton, TX, Uberti USA, and possibly others.  They are now also known to have been sold in Europe under the HEGE dealer name. 

Phil Spangenberger did an article about these stainless revolvers in the October 1983 issue of Guns and Ammo Magazine. According to the article, the models that were being imported were the 1851 Navy, 1860 Army, 1861 Navy, 1862 Pocket Navy, and 1862 Pocket police. Thanks to Dr. J.L. Davis of RPRCA, Claremore, OK, I have a 1984 price list for Uberti products that lists fourteen different models of Stainless Steel Colts produced by Uberti at that time. Subsequent price lists expanded the line to 16 models by adding 4 ½ inch barreled Pocket Navy and Pocket Police. The known model list is:

1851 Navy, Oval Trigger guard Revolver, Cal. .36
1851 Navy, Square back Trigger guard Revolver, Cal. .36 *@
1851 Navy, “Sheriff’s Model” Oval Trigger guard Revolver, Cal. .36 *
1851 Navy, “Sheriff’s Model” Square back Trigger guard Revolver, Cal. .36
1860 Army, Military, Cut For Stock, Cal. .44 *@
1860 Army, Military, With Fluted Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .44*@
1861 Navy, Military, Cut For Stock, Revolver, Cal. .36 * @
1861 Navy, Civilian, Revolver, Cal. .36
1861 Navy, Military, With Fluted Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36*
1861 Navy, Civilian, With Fluted Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36
1862 Police, Semi-Fluted Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36, Barrel 4 ½”@
1862 Police, Semi-Fluted Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36, Barrel 5 ½”*@
1862 Police, Semi-Fluted Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36, Barrel 6 ½”
1862 Pocket Navy, Engraved Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36, Barrel 4 ½”*
1862 Pocket Navy, Engraved Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36, Barrel 5 ½”*@
1862 Pocket Navy, Engraved Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36, Barrel 6 ½”
(* - have identified location of examples of these models)
(@ - have this model)

The current total of known revolvers is thirty three. I have nine of these revolvers and know of twenty Four in the hands of other collectors or BP shooters. Two of the known revolvers are in Switzerland, one is in England, one in Spain, and now one has turned up in Poland.  The Swiss and Polish models are marked Original Hege on the barrel, the English model has the typical Allen Firearms barrel address, and the one in Spain has a blank barrel.

Anyone with information concerning Allen Firearms, Southwest Muzzleloaders Supply or any other Uberti Stainless Steel Colt style revolvers is requested to contact fingersmcgee@charter.net  I am seeking information as to models, manufacture dates, serial numbers, barrel markings, barrel lengths, trigger guards, and any other characteristics as well as catalog, brochure, and original packaging information. 
Of course, if anyone has any for sale, I would be interested in that also.

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Colt Collecting / Help Wanted - Updated information
« on: September 01, 2017, 10:55:05 AM »
Update 31 August 2017

While I haven't seen or heard of any of these rare Ubertis lately; I know there are still a bunch of them out there somewhere. So............ Let's update this request for info. 

I am seeking the location of, and any information available on a line of stainless steel percussion Colt revolvers made by Uberti and imported by Allen Firearms, Santa Fe, NM; Southwest Muzzleloaders Supply, Inc. Angleton, TX, Uberti USA, and possibly others in the early to mid '80s. Phil Spangenberger did an article about these stainless revolvers in the October 1983 issue of Guns and Ammo Magazine. According to the article, the models that were being imported were the 1851 Navy, 1860 Army, 1861 Navy, 1862 Pocket Navy, and 1862 Pocket police. Thanks to Dr. J.L. Davis of RPRCA, Claremore, OK, I have a 1984 price list for Uberti products that lists fourteen different models of Stainless Steel Colts produced by Uberti at that time. Subsequent price lists expanded the line to 16 models by adding 4 ½ inch barreled Pocket Navy and Pocket Police. The complete model list, known so far, is:

1851 Navy, Oval Triggerguard Revolver, Cal. .36
1851 Navy Squareback Triggerguard Revolver, Cal. .36 *@
1851 Navy “Sheriff’s Model” Oval Triggerguard Revolver, Cal. .36 *
1851 Navy “Sheriff’s Model” Squareback Triggerguard Revolver, Cal. .36
1860 Army Military, Cut For Stock, Cal. .44 *@
1860 Army Military, With Fluted Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .44*@
1861 Navy Military, Cut For Stock, Revolver, Cal. .36 * @
1861 Navy Civilian, Revolver, Cal. .36
1861 Navy Military, With Fluted Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36*
1861 Navy Civilian, With Fluted Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36
1862 Police, Semi-Fluted Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36, Barrel 4 ½”*@
1862 Police, Semi-Fluted Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36, Barrel 5 ½”*@
1862 Police, Semi-Fluted Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36, Barrel 6 ½”
1862 Pocket Navy, Engraved Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36, Barrel 4 ½”*
1862 Pocket Navy, Engraved Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36, Barrel 5 ½”*@
1862 Pocket Navy, Engraved Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36, Barrel 6 ½”
(* - have identified location of examples of these models)
(@ - have this model)

Total known is now 29 32 as of 31 August 2017. I have seven  nine of these revolvers and know of twenty three others in hands of other collectors or BP shooters. Since the last update, an 1860 Army has been found in Spain, and I acquired a pair of 1851 Navies one of which has a consecutive serial number to the first SS Navy I bought 11 years ago.

Anyone with information concerning Allen Firearms, Southwest Muzzleloaders Supply or any other Uberti Stainless Steel Colt style revolvers is requested to contact fingersmcgee@charter.net I am seeking information as to models, manufacture dates, serial numbers, barrel markings, barrel lengths, trigger guards, and any other characteristics as well as any catalog, brochure and original packaging information.

Of course, if anyone has any for sale, I would be interested in that also.

Thanks in advance for any info.

Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee

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Army Models / ROA Hand
« on: June 29, 2017, 08:54:55 PM »
I know.  This is a Colt forum.  But a friend needs some help.  Anyone know where I can get a hand for a Ruger old army?

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Navy Models / Uberti Stainless Steel Colts.
« on: May 08, 2017, 04:46:47 PM »
Just won these on Gunbroker today.  Listing was for "Uberti stainless engraved black powder revolver "
 Of course the only engraving was the roll engraved naval battle scene on the cylinder. They were imported by Allen Firearms of Santa Fe, NM and are two more in my search for these rare Uberti Stainless Colt's. Total known & documented is now up to 31.




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Walkers & Dragoons / 2nd Gen Garibaldi Commemorative 3rd Model Dragoon
« on: February 17, 2017, 08:31:41 PM »
The mail lady dropped this off this afternoon:



NIB, 2nd Gen Colt, one of 206, gold etched 3rd Model Dragoon in presentation case with etched glass top, and with original packaging and papers.

Seller also included a Sig series nickel plated accessory set, Zippo Colt Dragoon lighter, Case Colt Dragoon knife, and a book about Garibaldi.

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Corrected and updated post.

Colt Custom shop American Historical Foundation made these in the early 90's (?)  mid 80s.  Hand engraved and silver plated.  They made 100 of each, Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine Corps commemoratives from 2nd Generation 1851 Navies.  This one is #7 of 100.  The Army one I have is #52 (?) of 100.  I would check it; but it's under a bunch of stuff in the safe.  Army is gold plated ad the Marine Corps and Air Force models are combination of gold and silver plated.  Still looking to get the Marine Corps and Air Force models.

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Navy Models / Am Hist Foundation 1851 Navy, Navy Commemorative
« on: January 26, 2017, 01:10:39 PM »
Colt Custom shop made these in the early 90's (?)  Hand engraved and silver plated.  They made 100 of each, Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine Corps commemoratives from 2nd Generation 1851 Navies.  This one is #7 of 100.  The Army one I have is #52 (?) of 100.  I would check it; but it's under a bunch of stuff in the safe.

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Subject says it all - Pictures at Gunbroker.com item # 609331133

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Pocket Models / Colt Custom Shop Engraved, gold inlaid Pocket Navy
« on: December 08, 2016, 04:43:18 PM »
Here is a 1 of 25 gold inlayed, engraved 2nd Generation 1862 Pocket Navy.  The BS & TG, flask and mold are gold plated and the nipple wrench/screwdriver is engraved and gold inlayed.


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American Historical Foundation had these Dragoon sets made in 1993 from 2nd Generation Colt Blackpowder 3rd Model Dragoons.  Engraved and gold inlayed w/gold plated BS & TG, each is a one of 50.  The north is in a high polish Blue and the South sports a French Gray finish.   


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Navy Models / Latest Adition to the collection
« on: September 11, 2016, 09:08:16 AM »
Latest 2nd Gen acquisition.  1 of 25 engraved and cased Pocket Navy


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Colt Cousins / Confederate Handguns.
« on: August 23, 2016, 01:07:03 PM »
A while back I posted a photo of Confederate revolvers that did not include all models - cause I didn't have them all.  Now I do.  Here are the handguns used by the Confederacy that have had reproductions made:

Counter Clockwise from the top:
Griswold and Gunnison sheriffs model ( Uberti)
Tucker & Sherrard (Uberti)
Spiller & Burr (Pietta
Schneider & Glassick(Pietta)
Leech and Rigdon (Uberti)
Rigdon & Ansley Augusta (Uberti)
Navy LeMat (Pietta)
Griswold & Gunnison
J.H. Dance (Pietta)

Center:
Leech & Rigdon Sheriffs model (Pietta)

The Tucker & Sherrard, LeMat, and J.H.Dance are .44 caliber.  All others are .36





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Colt Collecting / Latest info on Stainless Steel Uberti Colts
« on: August 21, 2016, 11:23:12 AM »
The past three weeks have been very interesting in regards to SS Uberti Colts. On the 4th of August I received an email from a guy in Switzerland that has a full fluted 4 screw 1861 Navy cut for the shoulder stock. This model of his has the cut in the back strap for the stock. The other 3 1861 Navies that had been identified up to this point do not have the back strap cut. Then to top it all off, he sends me a link to a sporting goods store/gunshop(?) in Switzerland that has an 1862 Pocket Navy for sale. So............... Lets start a new Info Request thread with updated information.

I am seeking the location of, and any information available on a line of stainless steel percussion Colt revolvers made by Uberti and imported by Allen Firearms, Santa Fe, NM; Southwest Muzzleloaders Supply, Inc. Angleton, TX, Uberti USA, and possibly others in the early to mid '80s. Phil Spangenberger did an article about these stainless revolvers in the October 1983 issue of Guns and Ammo Magazine. According to the article, the models that were being imported were the 1851 Navy, 1860 Army, 1861 Navy, 1862 Pocket Navy, and 1862 Pocket police. Thanks to Dr. J.L. Davis of RPRCA, Claremore, OK, I have a 1984 price list for Uberti products that lists fourteen different models of Stainless Steel Colts produced by Uberti at that time. Subsequent price lists expanded the line to 16 models by adding 4 ½ inch barreled Pocket Navy and Pocket Police. The complete model list, known so far, is:

1851 Navy, Oval Trigger guard Revolver, Cal. .36
1851 Navy, Square back Trigger guard Revolver, Cal. .36 *@
1851 Navy, “Sheriff’s Model” Oval Trigger guard Revolver, Cal. .36 *
1851 Navy, “Sheriff’s Model” Square back Trigger guard Revolver, Cal. .36 
1860 Army, Military, Cut For Stock, Cal. .44 *@
1860 Army, Military, With Fluted Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .44*@
1861 Navy, Military, Cut For Stock, Revolver, Cal. .36 * @
1861 Navy, Civilian, Revolver, Cal. .36
1861 Navy, Military, With Fluted Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36*
1861 Navy, Civilian, With Fluted Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36
1862 Police, Semi-Fluted Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36, Barrel 4 ½”@
1862 Police, Semi-Fluted Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36, Barrel 5 ½”*@
1862 Police, Semi-Fluted Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36, Barrel 6 ½”
1862 Pocket Navy, Engraved Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36, Barrel 4 ½”*
1862 Pocket Navy, Engraved Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36, Barrel 5 ½”*@
1862 Pocket Navy, Engraved Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36, Barrel 6 ½”
(* - have identified location of examples of these models)
(@ - have this model)

The current total of known revolvers is 29. I have seven of these revolvers and know of twenty two in the hands of other collectors or BP shooters. The latest two being located in Switzerland, and one that had been identified earlier as being in England.
 
Anyone with information concerning Allen Firearms, Southwest Muzzleloaders Supply or any other Uberti Stainless Steel Colt style revolvers is requested to contact fingersmcgee@charter.net I am seeking information as to models, manufacture dates, serial numbers, barrel markings, barrel lengths, trigger guards, and any other characteristics as well as any catalog, brochure and original packaging information.

Of course, if anyone has any for sale, I would be interested in that also.

Thanks in advance for any info.

Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee
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"Brand X" / LeMat
« on: August 03, 2016, 04:59:42 PM »
A bunch of years ago, I had a LeMat cavalry model.  I shot it a few times & found it was fun to shoot 9 rounds from the cylinder & 1 shot load from the arbor/barrel.  I ended up selling it (for more than I paid) because I wanted something else and the LeMat was just gathering dust.  Sometime after I sold the LeMat, I became a "Collector", of mostly NIB replica revolvers, hanging on to whatever I bought regardless of whether tey'd ever be 'used'. 

I've been trying to replace that LeMat for a few years now.  Only problem is, the price of even a used LeMat has skyrocketed.  You can't find one on GunBroker for less than a $900 starting bid and most are over $1000.  That is till today.  I managed to snag one for $606.  Ought to be here next week.  Will be adding it to my Confederate Replicas photo and giving it some range time.

Stay Tuned

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Gunsmithing/Tuning/Parts & Repairs / Repairing Broken Hand Springs
« on: July 19, 2016, 08:33:07 PM »
Broken flat hand springs seem to occur frequently in Colt-type revolvers.   My Good friend J-Bar has made a video showing how to repair a broken hand spring with wire springs. 

Fingers

" Here's hoping you will find it interesting, and perhaps encourage you to develop the idea further. The wire hand spring is not as elegant as some other approaches, but it is quick and easy to Video on Replacing Flat Hand Spring with a Wire Spring."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp1nbPw5Z4Q

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