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Media Matters / Re: Your favorite Western actors, and why?
« Last post by AntiqueSledMan on Today at 04:24:00 AM »
Hey Capt.

I agree, Lee Marvin was pretty good as Liberty Valance, but I thought he was better as Kid Shelleen in Cat Ballou.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvwmWqmzSXE

AntiqueSledMan.
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Very nice 1849 Pocket. Could it also be the tip of the trigger?

As far as the 1st Model Dragoon is there anything specific that makes you suspect a copy? It looks real enough to me.

My issues with the Dragoon:
1. The address and patent stamps are missing - now these revolvers were used and abused and unloved for many years before becoming collectable - and this has been buffed and rubbed and beaten and dented and whatever, sooooo - the markings could have been lost to time (they have on several of my other Colts), According to last owner, this was at one time Gold plated (brass/nickel/gold) had to be removed, could have removed details - !
The patent has had an "attempt" at recovery - by hand-stamping individual letters! - something Colt wouldn't have done, but again could have been done years later to an original in the misguided effort to restore - I suppose.

2. The Serial numbers are double stamped - and although the "font" used, is historically darn-close to correct, it is not recorded anywhere that I can find that they would double stamped numbers on Dragoon parts - but my research is internet based, so feel free to chime in.

Everything else looks good, including the slow "rifling" - the hand-drawn screws - the internal-parts fit and finish - I compared it to two originals in hand (I did not take down the originals to compare the revolvers internally as they did not belong to me and I was at a gunshow) - and the above text and serial number issues are the stand alone differences.

While doing this I have come across several Walker copies and one or two Dragoons that were made in the time before the Italian replicas were available, and were supposedly made by a craftsman and his apprentices out of Texas - this "story" has been so often repeated around the US and on collector forums and by Elmer Keith in his book Six Guns, that I think it must be one of his.

Too nice to be a Mexican or Spanish, Belgian copy, those all had specific "aesthetic issues" that are quite easy to spot.

It is a nice collectable oddity, and that is fine.
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Media Matters / Re: Anyone else here a "Western nut"?
« Last post by mike116 on March 18, 2019, 08:45:17 PM »
Any other members here a big fan of the Westerns from the Golden Age, and which ones? If so, let's have a discussion!

If it's any indication....  the default ringtone on my phone is the Bonanza Theme song.   
Other than Bonanza,  Rawhide, Wagon Train, and the Rifleman are some of my favorite TV Westerns.     When it comes to movies you can't beat John Wayne or Jimmy Stuart.
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Media Matters / Re: Anyone else here a "Western nut"?
« Last post by ShotgunDave on March 18, 2019, 08:35:37 PM »

If you ever get an hour to kill......check out "Sad Hill" on Netflix.

I know what I'm doing tonight.........
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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Aircraft Painting
« Last post by ShotgunDave on March 18, 2019, 08:33:31 PM »

Miguel loco, that guided bomb is an amazing piece of technology for it's time. I've never been to Pima, but it's on my list of places to visit once in my life.

Well....if you decide to head this way, let me know. We could head out into the desert and burn some powder too. I was just at the museum yesterday with some friends that needed to thaw out in the AZ weather. There's a lot to see there.

Thank you Sir! I will surely do that!
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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Aircraft Painting
« Last post by Miguel Loco on March 18, 2019, 06:01:50 PM »

Miguel loco, that guided bomb is an amazing piece of technology for it's time. I've never been to Pima, but it's on my list of places to visit once in my life.

Well....if you decide to head this way, let me know. We could head out into the desert and burn some powder too. I was just at the museum yesterday with some friends that needed to thaw out in the AZ weather. There's a lot to see there.
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Media Matters / Re: Anyone else here a "Western nut"?
« Last post by Miguel Loco on March 18, 2019, 05:58:19 PM »
I must admit that I'm a sucker for a good western as well. I know I'm not alone.....both here and outside the US, there are millions of us.

If you ever get an hour to kill......check out "Sad Hill" on Netflix. it's all about finding, then restoring the cemetery from "The good, The Bad and the Ugly." These people spent months getting it close to the original set, then set up and watched the entire movie there. That's a little more die hard than I am....but it's a great show breaking down all the weird stuff that happened during the making of the movie. One of the best parts is the explanation on how they accidentally blew up the bridge .... I laughed my rear off. That movie is truly one of the best westerns ever done. Too bad Clint developed an allergy to horses which prevented him from doing many westerns later in life.

Thank God there are hundreds more of them out there.
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Media Matters / Re: Anyone else here a "Western nut"?
« Last post by ShotgunDave on March 18, 2019, 02:58:32 PM »
Somewhere, someone on the 'net (can't remember the source anymore) has cooked up a 'conspiracy theory' that anti's in Hollywood force-fed us kids of the Sixties Westerns in order to evoke an "inverse reaction" and make us hate guns.
News flash: if true, it didn't work. *6'

If nothing else, it fueled the desire to own those classic guns of history, and thank goodness for foreign makers like Pietta, Uberti, Pedersoli and others who have made owning a replica of your favorite a reality without being a wealthy playboy.

For one thing, I believe for many of us it demonstrated a clear black-and-white picture of how a "good guy" (white hat) and "bad guy" (black hat) behaved. Almost a code of chivalry, if you will. Today's TV and movie viewing really muddies the waters. Maybe that's part of the reason so many kids these days don't seem to have a moral code?

If'n that really was the case, it TOTALLY didn't work! We played "Cowboys and Indians" (Can I say that out loud anymore?) from dawn to dusk and a little after. I had Fanner 50's, a couple of Hubley SAA clones that were actually my Mom's from her childhood in the 50's, I had the Winchester rifle that took cartridges and I also had another Winchester "Mare's Leg" that had the big loop lever and a little gizmo on it that fired it every time you cranked that lever. Then My Mom got me a Daisy rifle, that looked just like a Red Rider but didn't shoot anything. It just made noise with a little spinning wheel gadget that sounded like a ricochet. I had the best childhood ever, all because of my love for the western stuff.

The stuff kids are fed now is garbage and has polluted their minds. Political correctness be damned.
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Media Matters / Re: Your favorite Western actors, and why?
« Last post by ShotgunDave on March 18, 2019, 02:50:14 PM »
Oh man, can't forget William Holden in The Wild Bunch. He was a total bad ass. His character in that movie was very Clint Eastwood like. Same kind of quiet meanness and sarcasm.
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Media Matters / Re: Your favorite Western actors, and why?
« Last post by G Dog on March 18, 2019, 02:13:34 PM »
Shane was cringworthy, except for Palance.  Big +1 on Kilmer as Holliday - that was a great performance.
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