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Remington / Re: Santa Barbara
« on: June 12, 2019, 07:54:53 PM »
Congrats, Captain. Here is something I found in a description of a Santa Barbara that was for sale, I don't know what kind of metal that is but I guess it's supposed to be pretty strong:

Product Description
44 BP; 100% blue, mint bore, mint grips, 8'' barrel, Brand new and in the original factory box with factory serialized certificate of Guarantee paperwork, as well as a tempered steel nipple wrench. Hands down, E.N. Santa Barbara's 1859 Remington New Model Army is- for the well informed, the rarest and most sought after" Holy Grail " of all the past and present 1859 New Model ARMY Remington reproductions out there. Do your research on this rare 1971 introduced revolver- you may never have heard of this Spanish manufacture, yet they were in business for almost 500 years- as Empresa Nacional Santa Barbara De Industrias Miltares S.A. Ini (The Spanish National Weapons Factories) and now part of General Dynamics Corporation. What makes this the Holy Grail: Santa Barbara 1859s were precision hand fitted and made of the highest quality steels in contrast to all others- who all sold for much less. SB-1859s deep blue finish and classic wooden handle scales combine to create a harmonious overall accurate rendition of a Remington NEW MODEL ARMY. Its perfect workmanship, down to the last detail, was all in following the old time art of weapons production. The firearms inside parts and outside is manufactured of alloyed tempered steel, 42Cr Mo4 according to DIN 17200, which is also used for highly stressed parts such as connecting rods, gear parts and gears. The cylinder was also made of alloyed tempered steel, 34CrMo4 according to DIN 17200, this material can be found in axles of motor vehicles. As a complete package, this revolver was designed for high volume usage and match accuracy, to this day the most sought after for competition. Indeed, a rare and unquestionable precision revolver here…brand new, priced at far less than market value- give us a call., http://www.santa-barbara-1858.org pp , s/n 145xx

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Update: I took a bolt out of a new Uberti '51 and tried it in this 2nd Gen. The Uberti bolt dropped right in and timed correctly as best I can tell. It also improved the chamber to bore alignment, it's still not perfect but it's better. This made me confident enough to shoot the gun and I fired about 4 or 5 cylinders worth. The gun shot fine and it was pretty accurate. I didn't really have time to really check accuracy but it seemed to do about 2" at 15 yards. The POI was about 6" high and 2" right at 15 yards.

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Army Models / Re: Revolver ball/bullet lube (historic)?
« on: June 09, 2019, 07:44:58 PM »
Reading this thread again, since the last time I posted I seem to remember that the instructions for a certain European percussion revolver said that one should be sure to apply lube over the balls when loading. I don't remember what revolver it was and it was just something I read on the internet so I don't know if it's true.

Kry, that sounds like a very interesting read.

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General Discussion / Re: What's on your wish list for 2019?
« on: June 09, 2019, 11:44:08 AM »
That's awesome mazo.

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Navy Models / Re: Colt 2nd Gen 1851 Navy
« on: June 08, 2019, 07:04:39 PM »
Sourdough, I never get tired of that pic. You can call it a fantasy gun but I think what happened is a Leech and Rigdon busted it's gripframe and the local gunsmith just happened to have an old 1851 Navy Squareback in his parts box.

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General Discussion / Re: Southern bluing
« on: June 08, 2019, 05:44:35 PM »
Wow if this really works I wonder if one could get a nice bluing by tumbling parts in chopped up unripe hazelnut hulls.

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General Discussion / Re: What's on your wish list for 2019?
« on: June 08, 2019, 05:41:55 PM »
Krylandalian, do you know for sure if they ever made a shoulder stock for the Signature Series Dragoon? I know that ASM, Uberti and Sig Series all made 3rd Model Dragoon's that were cut for shoulder stock but as far as I know the only one who ever actually made the shoulder stocks was ASM.

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Walkers & Dragoons / Re: Original Walker 'iron' cylinder
« on: June 03, 2019, 08:04:47 PM »
I wonder if the powder was finer grained, like 4F, and you were measuring by weight instead of volume, maybe then you could get 60 grains in under a Pickett?

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General Discussion / Re: I wonder...
« on: May 29, 2019, 03:43:36 PM »
If someone could make exact same original size and shape Colt gripframes that could be fit onto a Uberti or Pietta I think that would be really cool.

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General Discussion / Re: Cap jam solutions from the Civil War
« on: May 29, 2019, 03:37:07 PM »
I found that a clean gun helps to prevent cap jams. The other day I was shooting a Uberti 1851 Navy the old fashioned way. A full chamber of 3F powder with a lead ball, no lube no filler. The first 6 shots went off perfect, the next 6 went perfect and finally on the third cylinder full I got a misfire due to a cap sticking to the hammer. At that point I field stripped and cleaned the gun good and after that it ran smooth again.

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Walkers & Dragoons / Re: Original Walker 'iron' cylinder
« on: May 26, 2019, 12:44:56 PM »
 Isn't there a book that has reprints of Samuel Colt's letters and correspondence during the manufacture of the Walker's? I think Mr. Colt does refer to the Walker cylinders as "steel" at some point.

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Navy Models / Re: Colt 2nd Gen 1851 Navy
« on: May 26, 2019, 12:30:36 PM »
I like the squared trigger guard too. I think it looks good with an octagon barrel. The Colt Signature Series 1851 Navy squareback trigger guard is quite a bit bigger than the Colt 2nd Gen 1851 Navy squareback trigger guard.

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General Discussion / Re: I m back
« on: May 24, 2019, 01:50:23 PM »
I've gotten all the rust off and fully disassembled, cleaned and reassembled it. It really just needs a new wedge and to have the barrel reblued. I have shot it a few times by shimming the wedge and it shoots good. I like the rear sight that you dovetailed into the barrel, it looks like a real period correct solution.

I really wanted to try rust bluing to barrel myself but I am worried about ruining the barrel address.

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General Discussion / Re: I m back
« on: May 23, 2019, 07:17:40 PM »
Welcome back! I still have a gift pack to send you. Some .457 balls and now I also have a .464" mold and I can make you some of those too, if you can use them. Please pm me your address when you get the chance.

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General Discussion / Re: How many holes in your collection?
« on: May 12, 2019, 07:57:25 AM »
My cap n' ball collection is pretty much complete. I've got:

Walker
3rd Dragoon
1851 Navy
1860 Army
Pocket Police
1858 Remington .44
1858 Remington .36

I would like to get an 1849 Pocket but I'm in no hurry. I like the Confederate guns but I don't feel like I need to have them.

I would possibly like to get an original Colt someday. I would want it to be one that at least has nice crisp markings but preferably one that also had considerable finish remaining. An 1851 Navy would be my first choice but given prices an 1849 Pocket might be more realistic. I was also thinking a Manhattan might be viable substitute because you can get them a lot cheaper than Colt's.

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