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Offline mark1945

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1851 Navy
« on: July 01, 2015, 12:50:54 PM »
I just got a 1851 Navy at an estate sale. with box ,papers unfired. Checking ser # 26498  it was made in 1978 model F1100. Are these Colts made in Italy and by who for Colt or did Colt make them?

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Re: 1851 Navy
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2015, 01:58:12 PM »
What markings are on it, or since it is in the box, what is the manufacturer or importer?

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Re: 1851 Navy
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2015, 02:27:31 PM »
F series 2nd Generation Colt's were assembled by Iver Johnson in Middlesex New Jersey.  They were inspected, marketed, sold, warranted, and will letter by Colt's.

They are Colt's
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Re: 1851 Navy
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2015, 06:52:23 PM »
Thanks for the info on my Colt I had heard some were made in Italy and some were not .

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Re: 1851 Navy
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2015, 08:33:13 PM »
Not even the Signature series - that some call 3rd generation - Colt's were made in Italy.  They were made under license from Colt's in Brooklyn, New York.  But, they will not letter.
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Re: 1851 Navy
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2015, 03:40:48 AM »
While they were not "Made In Italy", they were assembled, in the USA, with parts made in Italy.  That is often the source of confusion. 

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Re: 1851 Navy
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2015, 06:09:09 PM »
How much does it hurt the value of my 1851 if I shoot it ?

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Re: 1851 Navy
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2015, 07:45:11 PM »
How much does it hurt the value of my 1851 if I shoot it ?

All depends. Some collectors will not buy a fired revolver; in fact, some will not buy it if it's been turned. Probably the most market value you would lose would be around $100-150.00. Not enough in my opinion to warrant wondering what it would be like to shoot it...
I don't intend on getting rid of any of mine, so let the next owner haggle it out. Me, I'm gonna shoot 'em. Of course, I don't own any 'real' Colts, either, so take it for face value.
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Re: 1851 Navy
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2015, 08:40:16 PM »
Not having the box and papers pretty much makes it a non-collectible.  The deduct for a 100% condition 2nd Gen not having box and papers is between $100 & $150.  Firing it would deduct another $100 to $150 or more depending on overall condition. 
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