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Re: Show us your flintlocks
« Reply #120 on: April 15, 2019, 08:39:01 PM »
That was a very enlightening and entertaining read.
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Re: Show us your flintlocks
« Reply #121 on: April 17, 2019, 07:42:04 PM »
Hi, I got to shoot my Pedersoli Kentucky flintlock today using black powder, not a substitute. Ignition of the main charge was almost instantaneous when pulling the trigger. This proves to me that only BP should be used for flintlocks.

Out of my four flintlock rifles, the Traditions Prairie Hawken flintlock is the fastest discharging rifle on trigger pull, instantaneous. I intend on shooting the Prairie tomorrow. The Prairie is also my most easily to clean flintlock.

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Re: Show us your flintlocks
« Reply #122 on: April 18, 2019, 04:38:37 AM »
Hi, there is a difference in the final cock position on trigger pull between the Pedersoli and Tradition locks. Notice the final cock position of the Pedersoli Kentucky and Hawken lock:



and the final cock position of the Traditions Kentucky and Hawken:



I think that the faster lock time for the Traditions rifles compared to the Pedersoli is that the flint final position of the Traditions is much closer to the open pan. IMO that directs the hammer sparks more efficiently.

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Re: Show us your flintlocks
« Reply #123 on: April 19, 2019, 07:35:17 PM »
This topic draws a pure interest from me. Flintlocks have never gained much attention on this forum, and rightfully so, given that it is a Colt based forum. However, my current interest in all historical firearms began with the flintlock, even before I got out of high school. I have spent quite some time on the study of them.

Initially, I intended to gather up my flintlocks for a group photo just for this thread, but then decided that I already had good pics of all of them scattered throughout my archives. So with that, I will post up some pics of them in order to continue the current participation.

Here are pics of two different "Schimmel" style flinters. They are also sometimes refered to as "Barn Guns." The term comes from rifle gunnes built with minimal furnature or carving. In other words, a rifle made for the working class. Some even lacked a butt plate. Most had no fore end enty pipe, nose cap, side plate, or toe plate. As well, most had minimal to no incise or relief carving on the wood.

The term Schimmel comes from German and Dutch origin. From there, the term can be traced to the gunsmiths from the Pennsylvania regions. As it is with the development of the American Long Rifle, there is always some speculation due to lack of documentation, minimal survival rate of original pieces, and the wide spread development and implemantation of the craft. Regardless, there is no other firearm that deserves more respect from us than the American Long rifle, regardless of the embellishment, or lack of, nor the region where such piece originated.

SANY0205 by Steve OBrien, on Flickr

SANY0206 by Steve OBrien, on Flickr

SANY0200 (2) by Steve OBrien, on Flickr

SANY0035 by Steve OBrien, on Flickr

SANY0034 by Steve OBrien, on Flickr

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Re: Show us your flintlocks
« Reply #124 on: April 19, 2019, 09:09:28 PM »
OMG Scooby! Those are gorgeous! I'd be proud to call any one of those mine.
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Re: Show us your flintlocks
« Reply #125 on: April 20, 2019, 04:42:52 AM »
Hi scooby, they're beautiful rifles. I especially like the simplicity of the plain-jane rifle (no patchbox). Tell us more about them, barrel length and caliber? Is the wood curly maple? Do you shoot them?

Thanks for the photos.

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Re: Show us your flintlocks
« Reply #126 on: April 21, 2019, 10:48:25 AM »
Barrel length on first one is 44 in. Second is 42 in. Both are fifty cal. Curly Maple wood. I do shoot them.

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Re: Show us your flintlocks
« Reply #127 on: April 22, 2019, 08:59:49 AM »
Hi, today I went out and shot my Traditions Kentucky flintlock today a couple of dozen times. Not long ago I learned that for instantaneous ignition real black powder should be used. Using Black Mz alone has an ignition delay. Today I tried loading 10gr of Olde Eynsford first followed by 40gr of Black Mz. 4f Swiss was used for the pan. Using the duplex loading had the rifle fire instantaneously with the bore left with almost no fouling. Accuracy was excellent and the 24th loading was as easy to load as a clean bore.

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Re: Show us your flintlocks
« Reply #128 on: April 28, 2019, 08:42:32 AM »
This nice piece is a 20 gauge French Type C Fusil Fin made by Caywood. I picked it up from a gentleman years ago at a Montana Rendezvouse. He decided that rifled barrels were more to his liking. It came into my possesion just as you see in the pics. I like to shoot it on occasion at muzzleloader shoots. It is light as a feather and easier to shoot than a regular smoothbore, given that it has a rear sight. The bore is as smooth as glass and Caywood sells a very good lock.

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Re: Show us your flintlocks
« Reply #129 on: April 28, 2019, 09:43:30 AM »
Hi scooby, that is a beautiful flintlock. I also appreciated the great photos you post. Your photo background adds a lot to the firearm presentation. I wish I had just a tenth of your photography skills.

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Re: Show us your flintlocks
« Reply #130 on: April 28, 2019, 12:08:38 PM »
That's a gorgeous flintlock Scooby.
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Re: Show us your flintlocks
« Reply #131 on: May 03, 2019, 08:06:25 AM »
Here is a look at a Chambers smooth rifle. It has a 46 inch smooth bore barrel in 28 gauge, stocked in Maple, with an early style, round faced English pattern lock. A buddy from Montana did the assembly work from the kit and then I did the finish work. It has taken a couple of turkeys with shot and I plan to take a deer with a round ball sometime.

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Re: Show us your flintlocks
« Reply #132 on: May 03, 2019, 08:21:38 AM »
Hi scooby, beautiful rifle/shotgun. Thanks for posting the great photos. We are currently in the Spring Turkey season, but the spring hunting safety issues keeps me from spring hunting. We get idiots from Buffalo that hunt spring turkey. I have been out waiting against a tree in the woods and have had hunters walk within a couple of feet of me. They don't see me and I don't dare say anything because doing so will have the shotgun muzzles turned in my direction. Spring turkey hunting here requires sitting and calling. I much prefer fall turkey hunting where I walk and can jump turkey flocks. I'm looking forward to taking a turkey with flintlock hoping that a 50 caliber ball doesn't destroy too much meat. Maybe try to shoot them in the head or legs.

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Re: Show us your flintlocks
« Reply #133 on: May 03, 2019, 09:11:52 AM »
Scooby, you have the most beautiful guns. And the photography is always amazing. Thanks for sharing it all with us. I never tire of looking at your pictures.
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Re: Show us your flintlocks
« Reply #134 on: May 03, 2019, 09:18:12 AM »
That one is a looker, Scoob. Thanks for sharing. Tiger maple always gets me to dreaming.
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