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Re: Ordered a new Uberti 1849 Pocket
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2013, 08:15:23 PM »
they say to use "bc-clt" lube on the nipples. I have found that "Never seize" works much better and withstands temps you would not believe. My dad worked for a natural gas pipeline and they used never seize on their turbine bolts. Now those got hot, and were cranked down as the discharge pressure was 1050 psi into a 36 inch pipe!  That is good enough for me. )k* *?.
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Re: Ordered a new Uberti 1849 Pocket
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2013, 08:27:32 PM »
Ya, you need the smaller shanked wrench for your 1849. Track of the Wolf has them.

http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/65/1/NW-130

Hi scooby, thank you, I ordered two of them. Since I always remove the nipples for cleaning after shooting, Ballistol works just fine. I bought a can of anti-seize compound, but don't use it because the stuff gets on everything everywhere and makes a mess.

Again, thanks for the info on the nipple wrench.

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Re: Ordered a new Uberti 1849 Pocket
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2013, 08:59:01 PM »
Ya, you need the smaller shanked wrench for your 1849. Track of the Wolf has them.

http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/65/1/NW-130

Hi scooby, thank you, I ordered two of them. Since I always remove the nipples for cleaning after shooting, Ballistol works just fine. I bought a can of anti-seize compound, but don't use it because the stuff gets on everything everywhere and makes a mess.

Again, thanks for the info on the nipple wrench.

Regards,
Richard

For what it's worth, I put the Never seize on with a toothpick. Just put the toothpick in the never seize about a quarter to a half inch and sort of wipe it on the bottle mouth leaving just a trace on the pick. Then wipe the threads a bit to put a little on then. Doesn't need to be all around the threads, cause when you screw it in, it works all the way around.  Just what I do. L@.
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Re: Ordered a new Uberti 1849 Pocket
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2013, 10:22:22 PM »
You are most welcome Richard. They will be ideal as well if you ever get around to owning an 1862 Police or an 1862 Pocket of Navy Calibre.

For what it is worth, I also do like you in that I remove the nipples for a good cleaning each time I shoot, so whatever presevative that I am using at the time gets applied to both the threads on the nipple and in the cylinder holes. Currently, it might be bear oil, deer tallow, Balistol, Rig, or Break Free. I have no issues with stuck nipples. Of course, I like messing with these revolvers almost as much as shooting them, so the extra time spent cleaning the nipples is considered time well spent with my guns. Just my own personal quirk.

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Re: Ordered a new Uberti 1849 Pocket
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2013, 04:10:23 AM »
Ya, you need the smaller shanked wrench for your 1849. Track of the Wolf has them.

http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/65/1/NW-130

Hi scooby, thank you, I ordered two of them. Since I always remove the nipples for cleaning after shooting, Ballistol works just fine. I bought a can of anti-seize compound, but don't use it because the stuff gets on everything everywhere and makes a mess.

Again, thanks for the info on the nipple wrench.

Regards,
Richard

For what it's worth, I put the Never seize on with a toothpick. Just put the toothpick in the never seize about a quarter to a half inch and sort of wipe it on the bottle mouth leaving just a trace on the pick. Then wipe the threads a bit to put a little on then. Doesn't need to be all around the threads, cause when you screw it in, it works all the way around.  Just what I do. L@.

Hi Kaboom, I have no doubt that anti-seize compound properly applied would do the job, even eliminate the need to remove nipples after each shoot. I am just so clumsy that I get the stuff all over myself, like a bear with a honey jar. The light oil (Ballistol) works for me and allows for easy soap and water cleanup.

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Re: Ordered a new Uberti 1849 Pocket
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2013, 04:17:44 AM »
Hi, my new Uberti 1849 .31 pocket revolver arrived today. My initial impression is mixed. The revolver is tiny, and the exterior fit and finish excellent. The exterior is beautiful. However, the lockworks is stiff and rough. The more I work the action, the smoother it becomes. Uberti specs the cylinder chamber at 0.319", but I measure chambers 0.321-0.322". The nipples are somewhat countersunk in the cylinder and none of my nipple wrenches fit inside the countersunk opening. Does anyone know of a source of nipple wrenches that will fit this Uberti 1849? I won't shoot this revolver until I first get the nipples out and reset them back in with minimal torque.

Today I cast many hundred pure lead 0.33" balls to use in this revolver.

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Hi, as I keep working the mechanism of the new .31 Uberti 1849 pocket, the more it's smoothing out. I was ready to chamfer the entrance of the cylinder chambers when I noticed that Uberti already did that, in fact, more than I would have done. It's strange that even the central cylinder arbor hole in the cylinder is chamfered.

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Re: Ordered a new Uberti 1849 Pocket
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2013, 09:10:59 AM »
Hi, I took my new .31 Uberti 1849 apart today and found metal particles in the revolver. I sloshed out the parts in paint thinner, Ballistoled up the parts and put the revolver together again. The action is now nice and smooth. I cast some soft lead bullets using the Lee #90300 mold that casts a 0.311" 93gr bullet. Of course those bullets just fall down into the 0.321-0.322" cylinder chamber, but can't be finger pressure pushed into the barrel rifling. The 32 Cal. 78g RN .313 Laser Cast bullets should arrive any day. I now have 100 .32 S&W brass, but still waiting on the reloading dies.

I'm still enjoying handling that 1848 pocket, it's so cute.

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Richard

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Re: Ordered a new Uberti 1849 Pocket
« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2013, 01:26:06 PM »
You got the revolver on the 5th and still haven't been kind enough to show photos!  HARRUMMPH!

As for the action, the more you cycle it, the smoother it will become to a point.  At some point it will be broken in and nothing will make it feel smoother.  An action job is nothing but accelerated waring in of a revolver.

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Re: Ordered a new Uberti 1849 Pocket
« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2013, 01:40:42 PM »
You got the revolver on the 5th and still haven't been kind enough to show photos!  HARRUMMPH!

As for the action, the more you cycle it, the smoother it will become to a point.  At some point it will be broken in and nothing will make it feel smoother.  An action job is nothing but accelerated waring in of a revolver.

Enjoy the little Colt.

Hi Strawhat, what can I say, I'm a bum.  *6' *6' *6' There will be pictures if the mailman would cooperate. The photo I'll post should be a stark comparison.

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Re: Ordered a new Uberti 1849 Pocket
« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2013, 05:42:27 PM »
How do you find the quality, overall?
While I love my little Baby, the quality overall is that of a piece of dogshit, if you'll pardon my French. Poor tolerances, very soft steel, cheap-ass springs. In fact, right now it won't work. Needs pieces & parts because the cheap junk broke.
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Re: Ordered a new Uberti 1849 Pocket
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2013, 04:42:27 AM »
How do you find the quality, overall?
While I love my little Baby, the quality overall is that of a piece of dogshit, if you'll pardon my French. Poor tolerances, very soft steel, cheap-ass springs. In fact, right now it won't work. Needs pieces & parts because the cheap junk broke.

Hi Captain, if it wasn't for the original stiffness, metal particles in the action, and the grips being a little proud, it seems to have a manufactured quality equal to Pietta. Sorry to learn that you are having problems with yours.

IMO the 1849 is a pure toy. I hope I will be able to find parts for it in the future.

My Taylor .32 S&W conversion cylinder arrived yesterday as did the .32 S&W reloading dies. Adding the conversion cylinder to the 1849 returned the revolver to its original state of stiff and unreliable. Maybe working the action a bit will loosen things up a bit? Hope so.

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Re: Ordered a new Uberti 1849 Pocket
« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2013, 11:14:41 AM »
You got the revolver on the 5th and still haven't been kind enough to show photos!  HARRUMMPH!

As for the action, the more you cycle it, the smoother it will become to a point.  At some point it will be broken in and nothing will make it feel smoother.  An action job is nothing but accelerated waring in of a revolver.

Enjoy the little Colt.

Hi StrawHat, your wish is my command, see:



Are you now wondering about that other "bad boy" in the photo? It's a new Pietta .44 1858 Remington Buffalo that just arrived today. The fit, finish, and smooth action puts the Uberti to shame.

There has been an ongoing debate on which manufacturer of replica revolvers has the highest quality. Based on these two revolvers, Pietta puts Uberti to shame.

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Re: Ordered a new Uberti 1849 Pocket
« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2013, 01:19:46 PM »
Thanks for the photo of the Baby.  As for the other thing, no need to show something like that in public. 
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Re: Ordered a new Uberti 1849 Pocket
« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2013, 01:39:55 PM »
Thanks for the photo of the Baby.  As for the other thing, no need to show something like that in public.

Hi StrawHat, yes indeed, my wife keeps telling me that bigger is always better.  *6' *6' *6'
Leave it to the Italians to invent the Buffalo 1858.

My Laser Cast bullets arrived today. As soon as I get the Lee Auto-Disk Powder Measure I can load up some .32 S&W for the Taylor 1849 conversion cylinder. I machined a few new parts for the Tower of Power loading tool (Biglube product) to be able to use the loader with the 1849 cap and ball cylinder. The Tower of Power should provide enough force to load antimony hardened 00-buck (0.33") in the cylinder.

Even though I haven't shot the "baby" yet, it's giving me a lot to do, and fun.

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Re: Ordered a new Uberti 1849 Pocket
« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2013, 04:49:59 AM »
I agree with stawhat in that an action job is accelerated wearing. Because of some of the sloppy machining found on some of these Italian reproductions, spending some extra time cleaning and polishing up the internals can be well worth it. Uberti really should rinse the frames out before assembly. There is most often enough metal debri left behind from the tooling to build a Chevy bumper L@. Removal of the left behind shavings is usually enough.

I have a lot of Ubertis, not so many Piettas, and sure enough, I have gotten several rough Ubertis myself. They needed a lot of extra work. And it does not matter which distrbutor you get them from either. I will also argue that the ones from Cimarron are not tuned, nor do they receive any special attention. Other than the name stamped on the bbl. they are the very same revolver that gets shipped to all of the other distibutors.

I still do prefere Uberti over Pietta though. So far, based on my experience, they still have an edge over Pietta.

By the way Richard, I like your new 1849. It looks very nice in the pic.