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« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2017, 04:22:43 AM »

The normal 22 mag is not much better than a high end 22 LR (CCI Mini Mag).
Hornady makes a 22 Mag for the short barreled pistols.
Hornady claims it to be about as good as a good .380.
"The top bullet is a 380 Auto 90 gr. Critical Defense round at 896 fps from a 2.75" barrel Ruger LCP. The bottom bullet is a 22 WMR 45 gr. Critical Defense round from a S&W 351 PD with a 1-7/8" barrel at 1038 fps."
I tried to post the picture of the ballistic jelly showing the paths of the 22 mag and 380 but I failed. The patterns in the jelly are about the same.
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« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2017, 09:47:35 AM »

1038 fps is faster than my .38s, .45s, close to .357.  Light bullets but I wouldn't want to stop one.
I have a Remington Nylon 66 .22 that's great to shoot.  I also pieced together a single shot Stevens .22 from parts that I found in an antique shop and from ebay.
I like 22s but they were scarce around here not too long ago.  I think people were hoarding them.
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« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2017, 03:10:01 AM »

The 22's are starting to show up around here also. (Southern Indiana)
None of the reasons that I heard for the shortage made me believe them.
Hording? Who was hording them. 22's weren't getting to the gun shops. It wasn't a middle man trying to keep the price high. There was none to sell.
Ammo factories too busy, all machinery tied up making centerfire ammo?  Centerfire and rimfire not made on the same machines.

I think the Ammo Companies wanted to raise the price so they just stopped making rimfire for about 8 years.

I don't think one will see 22 LR below $4.00 a box anymore except for sales.
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« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2017, 06:35:39 AM »

Example: a friend said he was running low on 22s and he wanted to get some more.  I asked how many he had and he said over 1000.  This guy shoots once every five years or so.
Talking to guys at my club, I hear the same thing about 22s.  People also hoarded brass for reloading.  I'm lucky I have a bunch of 30-40 brass but it seems to be scarce.
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« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2017, 03:54:31 AM »

In 22's, 1000 was a week end of shooting before I moved to town.
Of course Thunderbolts were only $1.25 a box...
That was just 8 years ago.
The shortage started right after I moved to town.
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« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2017, 09:35:59 AM »

Last year I grabbed a box of 22s at Kittery at a very low price, and Italian or Spanish brand - I didn't pay much attention.  I went to the range with my Nylon 66, loaded a round, pulled the trigger and...nothing.  I checked the gun and the case was there, but empty.  I pulled it out and ran a rod down the barrel but it was clear.  I tried it again, and again nothing but an empty case.  I showed one of the other shooters and he actually read the English section of the box.  Well, the rounds were powderless.
Dah...

http://www.sgammo.com/product/aguila/500-round-brick-22-lr-colibri-powderless-low-noise-ammo-20-grain-bullet-not-semi-auto
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« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2017, 03:31:36 AM »

Watch the "low noise Aquila" sometimes the little bullet gets stuck in the barrel.
I tried to use them to shoot blackbirds and had it happen. I didn't see dirt kick up so I checked and sure enough, it was about 15 or 16" down the barrel. Came out easy with a poke with a cleaning rod.
They are OK in a revolver.
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