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Handguns of the Confederacy
« on: August 23, 2016, 03:16:34 PM »
A while back I posted a photo of Confederate revolvers that did not include all models - cause I didn't have them all.  Now I do.  Here are the handguns used by the Confederacy that have had reproductions made:

Counter Clockwise from the top:
Griswold and Gunnison sheriffs model ( Uberti)
Tucker & Sherrard (Uberti)
Spiller & Burr (Pietta
Schneider & Glassick(Pietta)
Leech and Rigdon (Uberti)
Rigdon & Ansley Augusta (Uberti)
Navy LeMat (Pietta)
Griswold & Gunnison
J.H. Dance (Pietta)

Center:
Leech & Rigdon Sheriffs model (Pietta)

The Tucker & Sherrard, LeMat, and J.H.Dance are .44 caliber.  All others are .36




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Re: Handguns of the Confederacy
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2016, 07:06:41 PM »
Great photo Fingers.    Congratulations on completing the set.

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Re: Handguns of the Confederacy
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2016, 10:56:02 PM »
Thanks Mike
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Re: Handguns of the Confederacy
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2016, 06:28:17 PM »
Very nice!

Great job displaying them

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Re: Handguns of the Confederacy
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2016, 12:34:43 PM »
That's a pretty awesome family photo, Fingers! Great find on that Tucker and Sherrard.
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Re: Handguns of the Confederacy
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2016, 12:23:17 PM »
That's a pretty awesome family photo, Fingers! Great find on that Tucker and Sherrard.

Thanks Cap. 
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Re: Handguns of the Confederacy
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2016, 02:56:56 PM »
Here, from my collection, are the most produced revolvers by the Confederacy:

Top to bottom, Griswold & Gunnison by Pietta, (approx. 3,700); Leech & Rigdon by Uberti, (approx. 2,500 incl Rigdon & Ansley); Spiller & Burr by Pietta, (approx. 1,400); J. H. Dance & Bros by Pietta, (approx. 364 plus 136 .36 cal.)

Source:  Confederate Revolvers, by William A. Gary, K8 Communications, 1987.

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Re: Handguns of the Confederacy
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2016, 09:35:12 AM »
Beautiful! They look unfired.
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Re: Handguns of the Confederacy
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2016, 09:57:58 AM »
The Griswold & Gunnison is the only one I have shot so far.  The rest are waiting their turn!

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Re: Handguns of the Confederacy
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2016, 11:55:30 AM »
The Griswold & Gunnison is the only one I have shot so far.  The rest are waiting their turn!
Not to be nitpicky, but didn't the L&R originals have extra stop notches on the cylinder between battery positions?
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Re: Handguns of the Confederacy
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2016, 01:06:51 PM »
The Griswold & Gunnison is the only one I have shot so far.  The rest are waiting their turn!
Not to be nitpicky, but didn't the L&R originals have extra stop notches on the cylinder between battery positions?

No.  The Rigdon and Ansley Augusta models were the ones with 12 bolt stops.  They were made in the 1863/64 time frame when the factory moved from MS to GA
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Re: Handguns of the Confederacy
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2016, 03:03:28 PM »
The Griswold & Gunnison is the only one I have shot so far.  The rest are waiting their turn!
Not to be nitpicky, but didn't the L&R originals have extra stop notches on the cylinder between battery positions?

No.  The Rigdon and Ansley Augusta models were the ones with 12 bolt stops.  They were made in the 1863/64 time frame when the factory moved from MS to GA
Thank you for that clarification, Fingers!
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Re: Handguns of the Confederacy
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2016, 08:36:36 PM »
Here, from my collection, are the most produced revolvers by the Confederacy:

Top to bottom, Griswold & Gunnison by Pietta, (approx. 3,700); Leech & Rigdon by Uberti, (approx. 2,500 incl Rigdon & Ansley); Spiller & Burr by Pietta, (approx. 1,400); J. H. Dance & Bros by Pietta, (approx. 364 plus 136 .36 cal.)

Source:  Confederate Revolvers, by William A. Gary, K8 Communications, 1987.

The J. H. Dance is my next project. If it is a Pietta, I am only aware of their Dance produced as a .44 with a non-rebated (straight) cylinder/non-cut water table.

Is yours a .44? I want a Dance in .36 for my mix/match 1851 Navy collection and I think, with a bit of work, a Dance .44 in that configuration will work with a Pietta Navy .36 cylinder and barrel, as all are CNC machined these days, and I cannot imagine Pietta creating a special Dance frame, as above.

Any help appreciated, sir.

Jim

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Re: Handguns of the Confederacy
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2016, 10:37:20 PM »
Jim, my Dance is a .44.  I have tried a barrel and cylinder from a Griswold & Gunnison, and while they fit, the G & G cylinder is slightly smaller than the Dance.  As a result, the bolt doesn't rise far enough to securely lock the cylinder in battery. 
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Re: Handguns of the Confederacy
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2016, 02:22:40 PM »
Jim, my Dance is a .44.  I have tried a barrel and cylinder from a Griswold & Gunnison, and while they fit, the G & G cylinder is slightly smaller than the Dance.  As a result, the bolt doesn't rise far enough to securely lock the cylinder in battery. 
TC

Thank you, sir! I guess I'll rethink my pipe dream.

As an afterthought, have you tried to fit the .44 Dance cylinder/barrel to a Pietta 1851 Navy .36 frame? If so, does the cylinder drag on the frame water table or bolt? If not, that is a plus, and I may proceed.

If so, I need go no further.

Sorry for all of the questions, sir.

Jim
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