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Percussion Revolvers => Confederate Revolvers => Topic started by: Hewy on August 15, 2015, 08:35:20 AM

Title: Leech & Rigdon frames?
Post by: Hewy on August 15, 2015, 08:35:20 AM
As I am very interested in Confederate guns, but have little knowledge,
I would like to know what frame metals were used for originals as
well as reproductions.
Title: Re: Leech & Rigdon frames?
Post by: Fingers McGee on August 15, 2015, 11:05:28 PM
Leech and Rigdon, Rigdon & Ainsley, Rigdon Augusta models, Dance Brothers, Tucker & Sherrard, and others were iron framed.

Griswold & Gunnison, Schneider & Glassick, Spiller & Burr, and Cofer were Gunmetal ( Brass/bronze)

The only ones that are being faithfully reproduced are the .36 Caliber Leech & Rigdon, Griswold and Gunnison, Schneider & Glassick, and Spiller & Burr. The only correct  .44 currently being made is the JH Dance.  Tucker & Sherrards were made by Uberti & ASM a couple decades ago; but, show upon auction sites occasionally.  The models being made now are not completely historically accurate.  Most original cylinders did not have any roll engraving; whereas most contemporary models do.


This ought to help.  http://www.littlegun.info/arme%20americaine/revolver%20confedere/a%20a%20revolver%20confedere%20gb.htm
Title: Re: Leech & Rigdon frames?
Post by: Hewy on August 16, 2015, 09:21:44 AM
Thanks for the education,I just missed a nice High Standard 36 at auction.
Title: Re: Leech & Rigdon frames?
Post by: Captainkirk on August 19, 2015, 08:49:36 PM
Thanks for the education,I just missed a nice High Standard 36 at auction.

My buddy bought a High Standard L&R and said it was the worst action of any BP gun he ever owned. He sold it.
Title: Re: Leech & Rigdon frames?
Post by: sourdough on December 30, 2015, 07:17:54 PM
Just trying to keep this forum alive, per my interactions with CaptainKirk.

I would hate to see this forum die due to inactivity.

I am awaiting receipt of a new Pietta Griswold and Gunnison .36 from Cabela's. Should be here in a few days.

With that and my Pietta 1851 Navy 2nd Model Squareback I will be able to assemble 5 replica and 9 fantasy revolvers.

Stay tuned: I'll post more (including pics) when I get it.

I am really looking forward to creating an 1851 Navy .36 Squareback Dragoon (fantasy, of course, but one I feel Sam should have created).

The Leech and Rigdon is just an 1851 Navy Steel frame, .36 Dragoon barrel, and round brass TG (your choice of smooth or engraved cylinders).

If the wedges fit (and that will be a trial and maybe some sanding/reblueing) it should be a simple swap of barrels and cylinders.

We'll see...

Just my pipe dreams...

Jim

Jim
Title: Re: Leech & Rigdon frames?
Post by: Captainkirk on December 30, 2015, 11:29:17 PM
Thanks, Jim!
One gun I wish Sam had made would be a L&R-style Navy with rounded barrel and chambered in .44 caliber, although .36 would suffice.
I owned a shorty G&G for a spell and thought it to be one of the handsomest guns I owned.

(http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy140/Buellosaurusrex/S%20and%20G%20Classic%20Firearms/GG8-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Leech & Rigdon frames?
Post by: Fingers McGee on January 01, 2016, 12:00:58 AM
How about a short barreled Leech and Rigdon?  It's not a fantasy gun although it is not an exact reproduction.  There is an original 12 bolt stop C.H.Rigdon pictured in 'The Original Confederate Colt' by Albaugh and Steuart

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/GURigdon1.jpg)

Here are my CH Rigdons:

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/DSCN0493.jpg)

Title: Re: Leech & Rigdon frames?
Post by: Captainkirk on January 01, 2016, 03:55:38 PM
Now you done it. I think I'm in love.....
Title: Re: Leech & Rigdon frames?
Post by: Fingers McGee on January 02, 2016, 02:16:20 PM
 ^")
Title: Re: Leech & Rigdon frames?
Post by: mike116 on January 03, 2016, 11:13:11 PM
That's a sweet pair of revolvers Fingers.   Like mini Dragoons with too many bolt slots.
Title: Re: Leech & Rigdon frames?
Post by: Captainkirk on January 05, 2016, 12:00:28 AM
I believe there was another revolver with extra slots as well...was it the Starr? Can't remember now. ???
Title: Re: Leech & Rigdon frames?
Post by: Fingers McGee on January 05, 2016, 01:49:44 PM
I believe there was another revolver with extra slots as well...was it the Starr? Can't remember now. ???

Yep
Title: Re: Leech & Rigdon frames?
Post by: Captainkirk on January 05, 2016, 03:40:14 PM
I really love the wood on those, Fingers!
Looks like maybe...walnut?
Title: Re: Leech & Rigdon frames?
Post by: Fingers McGee on January 06, 2016, 12:36:56 PM
They are the standard Uberti grips that have been stripped and oiled.  Close inspection you can still see some of red varnish where it wasn't completely stripped.
Title: Re: Leech & Rigdon frames?
Post by: Captainkirk on January 06, 2016, 03:10:35 PM
Looks much better visually and (to me) more HC than red.
Title: Re: Leech & Rigdon frames?
Post by: sourdough on January 13, 2016, 07:14:52 PM
I believe there was another revolver with extra slots as well...was it the Starr? Can't remember now. ???

The only other 12-slot-stop revolver I can recall was the Manhattan.

I received my Pietta Griswold and Gunnison about a week ago, but the whole household has come down with some kind of viral respiratory disease, so I have not posted much lately. We have turned the corner, thankfully.

I have (temporarily) turned the Pietta G&G brasser (round TG) and the Pietta 1851 Navy Second Model steel (squareback TG) into a Schneider and Glassick and a (fantasy) 1851 Navy 2nd Model .36 Dragoon (which I am so enamoured of!). If I substitute my round 1851 TG to my fantasy pistol and use the G&G plain cylinder, it is a Leech and Rigdon. Pretty neat to be able to mix-and-match for 5 different mostly correct replicas.

The grip, TG, and backstrap on the G&G do not display the Pietta "tail" as the standard 1851 Navy Piettas show: it is much more like the original Colt profile.

Jim