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S&G on the cheap!
« on: September 20, 2011, 07:40:19 PM »
Just FYI, for you collector-types:
Been doing a bit of reading lately, both on Jim Davis' excellent site:

http://rprca.tripod.com/Home.html

and also the article that Fingers posted on the Schneider & Glassick:

http://blackpowdersmoke.com/revolvers/index.php?topic=207.0

(I think this was posted here as well, but couldn't find it)

Many times in the past I've seen "Colt Brasser" 1851 Models. Never paid 'em much attention; never had much interest in brassers.
But, after doing a bit of reading on the subject, I find that:
*Colt never made a brass-framed revolver
*Colt never made a .44 Navy
*All the Griswold & Gunnison models had round barrels
*The only known S&Gs (only three in existence) had plain unmarked cylinders in .36 cal.
So, what then, is a brass-framed 1851 replica, plain un-engraved cylinder in cal. .36, with an octagon barrel? You know, the cheap one on the auction sites touted as a "brass Colt 1851 Navy"?
It's an unintentional  Schneider & Glassick. Something that actually existed, but the replica maker didn't know, in almost certain terms. Why else would they sell them as a brass 1851 Navy, and label them as such?
Do I have your interest yet?
It certainly caught mine! Which is why I started looking, and found one. And Fingers is right; many times you'll find them listed as a brass 1851 Navy (by the uninitiated) and dirt-cheap at that.
NOW do I have your interest?
Just for comparison purposes:
*.44 cal, with rebated cylinder; NOT S&G
*.36 cal with Ormsby stage coach scene; NOT S&G
* Round barrel; NOT S&G

But if you find that brass framed, octagon barrel .36 cal Navy with a plain steel cylinder.....chances are it's not the run-of-the-mill gun they think it is, and would make an interesting addition to anyone's Reb gun collection.
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Re: S&G on the cheap!
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2011, 05:44:03 AM »
Who'd a thunk?  ;D
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Re: S&G on the cheap!
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2011, 10:39:12 PM »
I'm sure thinkin' so now... ;)






That's what a C-Note & a little elbow grease can get ya on Auction Arms.
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Re: S&G on the cheap!
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2011, 05:05:34 PM »
Nice looking addition to your collection Cpt. 
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Re: S&G on the cheap!
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2011, 09:11:27 PM »
Thanks, Fingers.
I was gonna turn that one.....who'a thunk it would be so....shiny....and have an action like butter?
Don't have the heart to turn it loose now.
Besides, I never shot it.
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Re: S&G on the cheap!
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2014, 04:37:32 PM »
I always loved the look of those.  I sent away the .36 I had to ole Drayton for some of his mad scientist experiments, alas, all I have now is my .44 non historically correct, but still cool in my book, pistols.  That is wicked cool that it was sort of an unintentional reproduction!
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Re: S&G on the cheap!
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2014, 10:07:01 PM »
I always loved the look of those.  I sent away the .36 I had to ole Drayton for some of his mad scientist experiments, alas, all I have now is my .44 non historically correct, but still cool in my book, pistols.  That is wicked cool that it was sort of an unintentional reproduction!

Keep your eyes open, Brazos. They do still pop up on the auction sites. In fact there was one on GB last week, might still be there?
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Re: S&G on the cheap!
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2014, 08:06:15 PM »
Still working on the one that Dave sent me, already done the Webley style barrel mod. Actually had another CVA 51 Navy barrel that I picked up on ebay, but, wound up selling it. It looks cool, but, TOTALLY non-existent pistol. Also did it to a .44 brass Navy. Still working on the back straps.

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Re: S&G on the cheap!
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2014, 08:23:24 PM »
Can ya show us some pix-in-progress?
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