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Aged Spiller and Burr
« on: November 22, 2016, 09:48:35 AM »
I recently got this gun at an auction, already aged!

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Re: Aged Spiller and Burr
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2016, 09:50:10 AM »
Left side view

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Re: Aged Spiller and Burr
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2016, 09:54:14 AM »
Someone did a pretty good job of defarbing this gun. I can't find any marks as to maker, Black Powder Only, date code, proof marks, nothin'. Only stamps that I can find are the C.S. on the frame, a number 76 on the bottom barrel flat next to the frame, and the serial number on the bottom of the grip frame.

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Re: Aged Spiller and Burr
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2016, 10:12:30 AM »
Don't know about yours, Mazo...but the last (Pietta) S&B I held had such a tiny grip it felt like a Baby Dragoon almost. Smaller than my ASP Remmies. Makes me wonder how they shoot? Please do a review after you shoot yours!
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Re: Aged Spiller and Burr
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2016, 12:54:29 PM »
Will do. This gun needed a little "loosening up" as it evidently hadn't been cleaned or lubed in a while. Joints and axles were dirty and dry. Working much better now. I may crown the barrel soon and put a bit more forcing cone on the barrel.

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Re: Aged Spiller and Burr
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2017, 05:52:05 AM »
Hi mazo, I purchased an aged Spiller & Burr from Williejet on the Remington message board:

http://1858remington.com/discuss/index.php?topic=11144.0

It should arrive this coming week. A few things about it had me concerned. The quality of the dovetail, but I was told it was done by a gunsmith. The other issue is that Williejet opened up the area around the nipples to allow a snail cap loading. I hope the defarbing is of good quality.

I understand that the Pietta S&Bs shoot very high. Maybe having that dovetail sight will allow it to be a good shooter.

Did you do anything more on your S&B?

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Richard
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Re: Aged Spiller and Burr
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2017, 09:44:04 AM »
Sadly, no. Just too much other  "stuff" going on lately. A friend and I have a range trip planned in a week or two, will take the S&B along.
« Last Edit: June 12, 2017, 02:57:25 PM by mazo kid »

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Re: Aged Spiller and Burr
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2017, 06:59:59 PM »
I'll be honest, I've never understood aging a reproduction Italian BP weapon.

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Re: Aged Spiller and Burr
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2017, 09:25:58 AM »
Hi, it seems that I'm not getting the Aged S&B after all. The seller became unhappy after I asked a question about the revolver. He suggested that I was having buyer remorse and that he refund my purchase.  I rarely have buyers remorse, but then again there's no deal I have to have. This deal was unwound.

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Re: Aged Spiller and Burr
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2017, 09:57:05 AM »
PM sent....
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Re: Aged Spiller and Burr
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2017, 06:45:25 PM »
Hi, it seems that I'm not getting the Aged S&B after all. The seller became unhappy after I asked a question about the revolver. He suggested that I was having buyer remorse and that he refund my purchase.  I rarely have buyers remorse, but then again there's no deal I have to have. This deal was unwound.

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Every aged Pietta I ever saw looked better than the factory finish with one half of the Webster dictionary stamped all over the exterior. Most Italian guns have a medium finish anyway. Some guys like them to look more like an original. Uberti does pretty good, as does Pedersoli with their cartridge guns. But their muzzleloaders leave little to be desired. But then, as it always is, to each his own.

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Re: Aged Spiller and Burr
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2017, 11:21:22 AM »
Hi, before I learned that my used Spiller & Burr purchase failed, I ordered this book:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0865545316/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I got a chance to look through it and it appears to be a must have book if you are interested in the Spiller & Burr.

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Richard
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Re: Aged Spiller and Burr
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2017, 11:50:37 AM »
Now you are committed. Best start shopping.
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Re: Aged Spiller and Burr
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2017, 12:19:36 PM »
Hi Kirk, someday, maybe.  :-*

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Re: Aged Spiller and Burr
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2017, 01:26:30 PM »
...  someday, maybe.  :-*

Regards,
Richard

Well … “Tomorrow is another day.”
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Never owned one and never shot one but Spillers sure look cool.  If one were going to copy something a Fordyce Beal design is a great place to start.

How much 3f is a safe but still meaningful load on those?  Is it accurate to infer that because of the top strap S&B’s will take a bit more powder than an open top brasser? 

I use 15 grains Pyro P in my Griswold (.36) and don’t exceed 18 grains.  Am I missing out by sticking to that light of a load?  Is 21st Century gun brass underrated regarding what’s safe and sane?
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