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Cap splash?
« on: October 06, 2019, 04:53:36 AM »
Hi, help. I am having a slight problem with my Pedersoli double barrel percussion shotgun. The left barrel cap splash tears into the upper part of my left hand. I have been wearing a glove on my left hand to protect against the cap splash.

There is a part available to flintlock users to prevent vent hole flame splash:

https://www.trackofthewolf.com/Search.aspx?search=flash%20guard

 but I can't find anything available for percussion shotguns.

Does anyone here know of a cap guard source?

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Richard
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Re: Cap splash?
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2019, 08:23:50 AM »
Hi, I found a solution to my problem, the Mag-Spark:

https://warrencustomoutdoor.com/mag-spark.html

That will give me a fully enclosed ignition system using 209 primers. It's interesting that 209 primers are lower cost than caps.

Here is a video with the Mag-Spark conversion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7ehUuoLfa4

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Richard
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Re: Cap splash?
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2019, 03:22:28 PM »
Hi Hawg, that's just the ticket, thank you so much.

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Re: Cap splash?
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2019, 04:59:56 PM »
Hey Richard,

I tried one on my Pedersoli years back, didn't like it. Seemed like it was just in the way.

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Re: Cap splash?
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2019, 07:32:19 PM »
I've had them before and they were more of a nuisance than anything else but maybe they're just the ticket for you.
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Re: Cap splash?
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2019, 09:11:56 PM »
If the Ted Cash Flash Cup is a nuisance perhaps it could be cut down some and still serve it's purpose.

Another thing I was thinking was maybe file a small notch on the nipple or on the hammer to direct and/or vent the flash. This was described in a video by Blackie Thomas aka Shaman's Forge on you tube. He was talking about percussion revolvers but maybe the same principle could be applied to a percussion shotgun. I don't have a link to the vid but I think most here are familiar with Blackie.

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Re: Cap splash?
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2019, 03:59:43 AM »
Hi Antique and Hawg, "didn't like - nuisance"

Was that for the Mag-Spark or Flash Cup?

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Re: Cap splash?
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2019, 05:57:24 AM »
Flash cup for me. Maybe it was the brand or something, I dunno. It was a little harder to put a cap on and if you dropped one it invariably got stuck between the nipple and cup.
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Re: Cap splash?
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2019, 01:11:31 PM »
Hey Richard,

Sorry, I meant the flash cup.
I did put a Mag Spark setup on one of my Lyman's once,
had to order a different Hammer & mill about .150" off to clear for 1/2 cock.
I'm not sure why I purchased it, guess just if I couldn't find caps.
I remember someone stating that primers were hard to eject also.

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Re: Cap splash?
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2019, 04:44:16 PM »
I made a couple for my percussion rifles, when I was shooting them. I am shooting mostly flintlock rifles now so don't use any guards. I know some matches require guards to be in use. I never considered them as a nuisance at the time, just something to work around.

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Re: Cap splash?
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2019, 10:01:24 AM »
Hi, I have both the Flash Cup and Mag-Spark parts ordered. Ordered the iron Flash Cups so I can nitre blue them.

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Re: Cap splash?
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2019, 07:56:53 AM »
Hi, two of the Track of the Wolf flash cups have been nitre blued. May give the flash cups a try before considering the Mag-Sparks. Advantages of the Mag-Spark is a closed system for weather and the ability to ignite difficult to ignite powers like Pryodex and Triple 7. Since I will only use either BP or Black Mz, ignition isn't an issue for regular caps. Time will tell what is really best to keep cap splash from hitting my left hand.

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Re: Cap splash?
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2019, 09:27:09 AM »
Hi, two of the Track of the Wolf flash cups have been nitre blued. May give the flash cups a try before considering the Mag-Sparks. Advantages of the Mag-Spark is a closed system for weather and the ability to ignite difficult to ignite powers like Pryodex and Triple 7. Since I will only use either BP or Black Mz, ignition isn't an issue for regular caps. Time will tell what is really best to keep cap splash from hitting my left hand.

Regards,
Richard

They look good. FWIW I never had a problem igniting Pyrodex with standard caps.
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Re: Cap splash?
« Reply #14 on: Today at 08:33:28 AM »
Hi, installing the flash cups had the shotgun looking like a tall eared rabbit, ugly. I could also see how getting cap parts out trapped in the flash cups difficult. I decided to install the Mag-Spark 209 adapters. This is a photo with the Mag-Sparks installed.

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