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Re: The Black Powder Revolver Collector Forum
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2020, 08:05:40 AM »
Jim, I was trying to come up with the right words for a reply, but the Capt beat me to it.
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Re: The Black Powder Revolver Collector Forum
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2020, 08:10:21 AM »
Thanks, Cap'n!

JIm

Education through sharing, Jim. Dr. Davis never did get around to publishing his book (to my knowledge) and everything he shared on that forum is, well...it's on the forum, for everyone to read and share. I doubt we would find that info anywhere else, because Dr. Davis dug up his facts through personal experience, and shared it through his generosity. I learned an abbreviated history of the Centaure Colts over there from Long Johns Wolf and others. Our own Fingers McGee has one of the largest collections of stainless Colts and has shared many facts about it there.
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Re: The Black Powder Revolver Collector Forum
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2020, 08:18:48 AM »
I've got two maybe "collectibles", one original Manhattan Navy series 1, with a low S/N 515 out of methinks a 4500-batch and one original Remington Rider .36 DA in good shape. Thing is I shoot them both on a regular basis. Are you supposed to shoot "collectibles" ???
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Re: The Black Powder Revolver Collector Forum
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2020, 08:31:02 AM »
I've got two maybe "collectibles", one original Manhattan Navy series 1, with a low S/N 515 out of methinks a 4500-batch and one original Remington Rider .36 DA in good shape. Thing is I shoot them both on a regular basis. Are you supposed to shoot "collectibles" ???

You can shoot them, clean them, light them on fire, whatever your pleasure. We would hope you would offer them for sale before torching them, though... ;)
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Re: The Black Powder Revolver Collector Forum
« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2020, 08:31:36 AM »
...... Are you supposed to shoot "collectibles" ???

They're your collectibles. Do as you see fit with them!

Me personally, I couldn't own a rare or desirable collectible. I would instantly ruin it's value because I'd shoot it.
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Re: The Black Powder Revolver Collector Forum
« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2020, 08:45:06 AM »

Me personally, I couldn't own a rare or desirable collectible. I would instantly ruin it's value because I'd shoot it.
You'd be surprised...value doesn't drop that much by shooting, only if you damage it. It wouldn't stop me from buying one either. My SB Remmy was fired...a lot. Didn't stop me from buying it and actually put the price more in my ballpark.
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Re: The Black Powder Revolver Collector Forum
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2020, 08:51:38 AM »
You're right Capt. A well used "collectible" is actually more desirable to me. I can usually afford them.

My G.U. Navy is a prime example. First year gun, low serial number. In pristine shape, it would be cost prohibitive and I'd take flack for shooting it. Well used (as mine is) it's affordable and only a very few people care if I shoot it. It's a collectible, sort of. No one will want it to fill out a collection. It's too used. Therefore a shooter to me.
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Re: The Black Powder Revolver Collector Forum
« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2020, 08:56:50 AM »
Old airplanes were made to fly. Old cars were meant to be driven. Old guns were made to shoot.
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Re: The Black Powder Revolver Collector Forum
« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2020, 09:07:42 AM »
Jim, I was trying to come up with the right words for a reply, but the Capt beat me to it.

Thanks, Dave. I believe that you, as a fellow parts changer, know exactly where I am coming from with my questions and posts here about recognizing such guns.

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Re: The Black Powder Revolver Collector Forum
« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2020, 09:14:50 AM »
Jim, I was trying to come up with the right words for a reply, but the Capt beat me to it.

Thanks, Dave. I believe that you, as a fellow parts changer, know exactly where I am coming from with my questions and posts here about recognizing such guns.

Jim

Absolutely Jim. I sure do.

More and more people are realizing the "Lego" aspect of the new Pietta guns. They're creating guns that suit their own fancy. 20 years from now, there will be a bunch of guns on the market, that Pietta didn't create. How will people know if it came from the factory that way? Will they mistake it for a rare and valuable variant? I would like to think not. There is so much information floating around now, that it should be pretty easy to determine the provenance of just about any gun. Specially newer ones.

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Re: The Black Powder Revolver Collector Forum
« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2020, 09:15:18 AM »
I have seen many collecter pieces that have a lot of new dings and scratches from being shuttled from gun show to gun show. Seen others with surface rust from being handled by sweaty hands and then not getting wiped down for weeks on end. Those two factors cause more damage than shooting ever will. And most every one is in fired condition anyway. The exception is replica collectors. I could see the reason to not fire one of them in order to hold the value for resale or trade. The only unfired collectors that I have ever had a chance to buy have been reproductions. I am ok with individual decisions people make regarding whether to fire a collectable or not.
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Re: The Black Powder Revolver Collector Forum
« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2020, 11:12:26 AM »
Thanks, Cap'n!

JIm

Education through sharing, Jim. Dr. Davis never did get around to publishing his book (to my knowledge) and everything he shared on that forum is, well...it's on the forum, for everyone to read and share. I doubt we would find that info anywhere else, because Dr. Davis dug up his facts through personal experience, and shared it through his generosity. I learned an abbreviated history of the Centaure Colts over there from Long Johns Wolf and others. Our own Fingers McGee has one of the largest collections of stainless Colts and has shared many facts about it there.


Dr. Davis passed all his notes and files over to Dennis Norton of the Facebook Cap & Ball Revolvers, Pistols and Rifles group. Dennis has loaded numerous files and articles in the files section of the groups page.  He is continuing Dr. Davis' work on getting the book published either in hard copy or E-Book. I've been passing some of my information to him and will be doing more.  The group iis not picture heavy like the Blackpowder Smoke forums are though. 

If I can get the attachment utility fixed so I can attach pictures, I've got lots of pictures to load on the collectors forum to help keep it running.  Probably need to put a link here so it is easy to find. 


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Re: The Black Powder Revolver Collector Forum
« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2020, 11:46:11 AM »
Fingers, thank you for doing that. It will be greatly appreciated.

There's a link in the very first post of this thread.
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Re: The Black Powder Revolver Collector Forum
« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2020, 02:29:57 PM »
Old airplanes were made to fly. Old cars were meant to be driven. Old guns were made to shoot.
Class dismissed.

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Re: The Black Powder Revolver Collector Forum
« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2020, 04:39:40 PM »
Old airplanes were made to fly. Old cars were meant to be driven. Old guns were made to shoot.
Class dismissed.

I'm more comfortable avoiding the categorical and definitive.  Class is in session.
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