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Pocket full'o fun
« on: September 10, 2020, 11:02:34 AM »
My wife's 1849. It's an ASM from a boxed set I bought her some years ago.



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Re: Pocket full'o fun
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2020, 12:16:15 PM »
Am I the only one who thinks highly of many of the old ASM revolvers?
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Re: Pocket full'o fun
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2020, 12:17:41 PM »
I've had 3 that were excellent, and 1 that was not. The main problem now is finding parts when stuff starts to wear out.

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Re: Pocket full'o fun
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2020, 12:23:38 PM »
Deer Creek in Indiana has a pretty good selection of NOS ASM parts.

http://www.deercreekproducts.net/
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Re: Pocket full'o fun
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2020, 12:26:48 PM »
Nice little 49 EM. I wish they fit my big ham hands better.


Am I the only one who thinks highly of many of the old ASM revolvers?

No Sir Capt, you are not. I have 2 ASM Dragoons. Love them both.
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Re: Pocket full'o fun
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2020, 01:08:37 PM »
Am I the only one who thinks highly of many of the old ASM revolvers?

Absolutely not! My only ASM is an 1860 Army (BD/1994) 4-screw CFS that is my .44 shooter. ASM revolvers (when they were produced) seem to me to be more historically accurate compared to the Pietta/Uberti/ASP, et al, guns of the same time period. The case colors are accurately more subdued than the others. I have also found that some Uberti parts fit the ASM guns much better than Pietta parts. That is how I was able to add a full-fluted cylinder to my 1860: Pietta was nowhere near the right dimensions.

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Re: Pocket full'o fun
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2020, 04:48:32 PM »
Deer Creek in Indiana has a pretty good selection of NOS ASM parts.

http://www.deercreekproducts.net/


They do not appear to carry any parts for the 1849

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Re: Pocket full'o fun
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2020, 04:49:55 PM »
I guess you could call it a truck gun...



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Re: Pocket full'o fun
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2020, 06:46:02 PM »
I would call that a Baby Dragoon.
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Re: Pocket full'o fun
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2020, 07:21:57 PM »
Ok. Questions...

The gun in both pics was sold to me as a cased set with an 1849 pocket. You say Baby Dragoon.

How do you tell the difference between an ASM 1848, and an ASM 1849?

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Re: Pocket full'o fun
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2020, 06:51:32 PM »
The original Baby Dragoons had squareback trigger guards and oval cylinder notches, no loading lever until late production, and a Texas Ranger/Indian scene engraved on the cylinder.
I've not seen a replica with the oval slots (mine does not have them) but the general consensus is that if it's a squareback, it's probably supposed to be a Baby replica.
Another thing I've noticed but not read about: on the Baby Dragoons, the forcing cone is very short and squared off while on the pocket models, it's longer and has a tapered cone shape much like the 1851 Navy.
Based on the above, I'd call yours a Baby Dragoon.
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Re: Pocket full'o fun
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2020, 08:06:25 PM »
That's a nice ASM. I no longer have any ASM revolvers. :'(

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Re: Pocket full'o fun
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2020, 08:09:27 PM »
Any 1848 will have oval cylinder notches. They can be found with both the square back and oval trigger guard. Regardless, to be considered an 1848,  it must have oval slots.

By 1849, Colt was producing square notches.

I own a Uberti 1848 with oval slots and it also has a square back trigger guard.

Another issue that you can see with the original production of the 1849 is that it was also produced in a six shot version.

I also have an early cased 1849 ASM in the six shot version with a six inch barrel.

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Re: Pocket full'o fun
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2020, 07:32:03 AM »
This pistol has a square back trigger guard, and rectangular slots. The forcing cone is short and squared off. Definitely not like the forcing cone on my 1851