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Re: 1860 2nd Gen Loading Issues
« Reply #30 on: December 30, 2020, 08:01:01 PM »
No, that wont have any effect on it. From the pics it looks like half the bullet is sticking out of the cylinder. A J&D should work fine with a 30 grain charge. I don't see that little bit of chamber step taking up that much powder space. To me it looks like your powder charge is 40 grains or better. Do you have a scale you can weigh a charge on?

No scale. And arenít you supposed to be measuring by volume and not weight?

You can weigh real bp and 30 grains will be right at 30 grains with some differential between grain sizes. Subs wont do that is why they are measured by volume.
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Re: 1860 2nd Gen Loading Issues
« Reply #31 on: December 30, 2020, 08:39:52 PM »
So I found a small cooking scale. It doesn't measure grains, but it will do 1/10 gram increments. I measured out a charge using my 30 grain spout and weighed it at 1.8g, which comes to about 27 grains. I lost a couple grains because of the pad of my finger sinking into the end of the spout when I blocked it for filling, so the measure appears to be accurate by weight.

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Re: 1860 2nd Gen Loading Issues
« Reply #32 on: December 30, 2020, 09:15:56 PM »
Then I have no clue. You can try reaming the chambers out or you can reduce the powder charge or stick to round balls.
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Re: 1860 2nd Gen Loading Issues
« Reply #33 on: December 30, 2020, 10:07:21 PM »
I'm thinking of taking it in to a smith to have them give it a look over, as maybe there's something that someone just needs to have it in their hands to see.

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Re: 1860 2nd Gen Loading Issues
« Reply #34 on: December 31, 2020, 09:34:21 AM »
So the plot thickens:

I went ahead and picked up an adjustable measure to remove any further doubt over the accuracy of my measure spout. It's a pistol measure with charges from 5 to 45.

So first of all, my 30 grain spout is still showing to be accurate. The amount matches between the spout, the adjustable measure, and by weight. HOWEVER this time when I actually put powder into the chamber it didn't fill it to the top like it did when I tested the other night (I haven't tried loading a ball yet).

Also, while doing testing, that little gate/door/whatever on the inside of the mouth of the powder flask FELL OFF and dropped down into the flask (yay, now I need to see if I can actually open the flask all the way to get it back).

So now I'm wondering if maybe that door wasn't seated right, so when I went to fill the chamber it MEASURED accurately from the spout, but didn't seal so when I actually went to load the powder more came out when I upended the flask.

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Re: 1860 2nd Gen Loading Issues
« Reply #35 on: December 31, 2020, 11:29:53 AM »
It sounds like you may have found the problem!
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Re: 1860 2nd Gen Loading Issues
« Reply #36 on: December 31, 2020, 12:25:53 PM »
I know it was sounding like an episode of The Twilight Zone for a while.
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Re: 1860 2nd Gen Loading Issues
« Reply #37 on: December 31, 2020, 01:26:20 PM »
Methinks you have found the problem!

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Re: 1860 2nd Gen Loading Issues
« Reply #38 on: January 01, 2021, 01:13:45 PM »
That was my initial thought. Is it throwing 30 grains?
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Re: 1860 2nd Gen Loading Issues
« Reply #39 on: January 01, 2021, 01:26:23 PM »
That was my initial thought. Is it throwing 30 grains?

Well, like I said it was MEASURING 30 grains with the spout. The problem was that it may have been leaking when I actually filled the chamber, so ended up with more than was measured.

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Re: 1860 2nd Gen Loading Issues
« Reply #40 on: January 09, 2021, 09:58:21 AM »
I ALWAYS measure powder with a KNOWN powder measure separate from the spout on my flask. I do this for a couple reasons.

Frist is the danger of holding a hand grenade meaning that IF thete be a spark left in the chamber, my charge directly from the flask COULD ignite and walla ... blown up hand.

Second being known that my charge is EXACTLY what I desire and not contingent on the spout being sealed off FOR SURE from the flask powder. Using a separate measure separate from the flask makes it impossible for the measure to hold anything but my desired charge.

Your problem makes me wonder about two things. Maybe using powder that is not pure Black Powder ... or ... not throwing your proper desired charge while using the spout.

I suggest trying your 5 to 45 or such adjustable measure to meter your charge into the chamber. Will this allow your bullet to seat?     
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