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Title: Thin barrier wad for .36 C&B
Post by: ssb73q on July 01, 2015, 06:04:07 AM
Hi, I preload extra cylinders for future use. When I load .44 cylinders I use lubed wads with a thin oil barrier wad against the powder to prevent oil powder contamination. Finding the right sized oil barrier wad for the .36 C&B cylinders had been elusive. I had been left with using an overball lube to avoid powder contamination. Last week a good barrier wad was found at midway that fits well, see:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/184120/walters-wads-38-55-caliber-386-diameter-0030-thickness-bag-of-1000

A number of .36 cylinders are now loaded up ready for shooting.

Regards,
Richard
Title: Re: Thin barrier wad for .36 C&B
Post by: mike116 on July 01, 2015, 04:12:26 PM
Hi Richard,   Thanks for the link.   I have trouble finding wads locally sometimes, especially .36 cal.   I have paid up to $10 for a bag of 100 lubed wads that did not have any lube on them.  $20 for 1000 dry wads seems like a reasonable price to pay.
Title: Re: Thin barrier wad for .36 C&B
Post by: HAWKEN50 on July 01, 2015, 07:20:34 PM
 (7&  I use a barrier wad sometime in my revolvers and always in my 45-70. i just punch em out of either milk carton or pizza box. The milk carton has the advantage of having the water proof coating.
Title: Re: Thin barrier wad for .36 C&B
Post by: mike116 on July 01, 2015, 09:15:32 PM
I used to try to cut wads myself but with running two businesses, reloading cartridges, and all the family responsibilities,  if I do it all myself I'd never have any time to shoot.   That's the reason I don't cast bullets either.  As long as I can get quality products like wads, bullets, and round balls at decent prices I will buy them for now.   Maybe later in life when free time is more abundant I will do all I can myself. 
Title: Re: Thin barrier wad for .36 C&B
Post by: StrawHat on July 02, 2015, 03:38:55 AM
For an over powder wad, oh wait, I don't use one.  I have not found the need for a lube wad in a revolver. 

What purpose does it serve?

Kevin
Title: Re: Thin barrier wad for .36 C&B
Post by: ssb73q on July 02, 2015, 04:58:12 AM
For an over powder wad, oh wait, I don't use one.  I have not found the need for a lube wad in a revolver. 

What purpose does it serve?

Kevin

Hi StrawHat, theory has that using either overball or overpowder lube helps prevent chainfires. There may also be a benefit to minimize fouling and barrel leading.

I have tested using no lube at all with C&B and never had a chainfire or excessive fouling, but I was trained to use a lube. I continue that practice. The lubed wad between ball and powder is much cleaner than overball lube. However, the unintended consequence is the contamination of powder by lube if the cylinder chambers are left loaded for an extended time. The barrier wad prevents migration of lube from the lubed wad into the powder.

I must agree that this may be a cure to a nonexistent problem. Closely held beliefs are a terrible thing to waste.  ;) ;) 

Regards,
Richard
Title: Re: Thin barrier wad for .36 C&B
Post by: StrawHat on July 03, 2015, 04:03:02 AM
With cartridges and black powder, I would use a wad cut from shirt board.  Back when shirts were packed with a thin sheet of cardboard between the folds.  Currently using the cardboard from cereal cartons.  And before you ask, using the cardboard from a Wheaties box does NOT help you shoot better. It may be the breakfast of Champions but the box is the same as all others.  (Speaking of, is it true Bruce Jenner is going to be on the next redesign of the Fruit Loops box?)

Will the cardboard work for a C&B cylinder?  I guess it would depend on how "wet" the lube is.

I have been shooting the C&B stuff without lube since being shown how in the early 60s.  It still works for me.

Kevin
Title: Re: Thin barrier wad for .36 C&B
Post by: ssb73q on July 03, 2015, 09:18:29 AM
Hi Richard,   Thanks for the link.   I have trouble finding wads locally sometimes, especially .36 cal.   I have paid up to $10 for a bag of 100 lubed wads that did not have any lube on them.  $20 for 1000 dry wads seems like a reasonable price to pay.

Hi Mike, you can buy lubed felt wads at a reasonable price from Sagebrush:

1000 wads:
http://www.sagebrushproducts.com/catalog/item/7354236/7655438.htm

100 wads:
http://www.sagebrushproducts.com/catalog/item/7354236/7655431.htm

I buy the wads by the thousand. IMO they are extremely high quality.

Regards,
Richard


Title: Re: Thin barrier wad for .36 C&B
Post by: mike116 on July 03, 2015, 11:50:23 AM
Thanks Richard,  I use wads for some of my C&B revolvers and also in some cartridges.   I will order some of these from Sagebrush and try them out.