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Pocket Models / Pocket Model Redo
« on: December 18, 2017, 07:33:57 AM »
Due to Krylandians generosity, I was recently the recipient of this DGW Pocket Model kit gun from the mid-80's.  It's had a rough go but has plenty of life left in it, just needs a little tlc and a few corrective measures taken.  This was built from a kit, has no markings on it of any kind, save a few imprinted numbers on the tip of the arbor.  Judging by the shape of some of the internals I'd say this was probably an ASM model.  It also had no staking pin on the arbor, screw in only.  Here's a quick list of the basic things that really needed fixing and what I've done so far.

1.  Arbor was loose
2.  Wedge beat up and loose
3.  Recoil shield ring uneven
4.  Crazy stiff mainspring
5.  Hand spring broken
6.  Sharp edges on all the action parts
7.  Machining and casting marks in various places and in the frame
8.  Safety pins on the cylinder contacting the outside of the recoil shield ring
9.  Polish screws

What I've done:
1.  Drill and staked the arbor with a nail and red threadlocker - not moving now
2.  Tapped the arbor end, inserted a set screw to tighten up the wedge
3.  Evened out the recoil shield ring and eliminated safety pin contact
4.  Replaced hand spring with a bobby pin
5.  Polished action parts and inside of the frame
6.  Reduced main spring tension
7.  Added an action stop
8.  Polished bolt head, thinned the bolt arms
9.  Polished the hammer/trigger contact surfaces
10.  Tuned springs
11.  Properly timed it

Here it is:

Taken down and cleaned:

Action Parts:

Arbor without Pin:

Arbor with Pin:

Arbor Set Screw:

Action Stop:

The brass trigger-guard has all kinds of great patina to it, I made every effort not to disturb that. 

The finish - overall I'm kind of mixed on leaving it in the white or perhaps bluing it.  Since the frame isn't CCH, or it has worn off if it was ever there, it might look kind of silly with a blued barrel/cylinder and the frame in the white.  I also thought it might be kind of cool to make a pair of stag grips for it, though I've never seen a pocket model with such.  Any thoughts on bluing/not bluing?

Many thanks Krylandian, it turned out great, I hope to shoot it later this week or over the Holiday. 



Tools and other trinkets / Ammo/Range Box
« on: December 08, 2017, 11:36:31 AM »
With a little scrap laying around I decided it would be kinda cool to make a smaller box for range use and use some Colt labels for decor, I put one on the front and back of the box.  I also made a small tray that'll fit in the top half of the box and I can leave the small stuff in it to grab all at once.  Next one will be with thinner wood, and better hinges.  I did strip the hinges, heat em up and apply a bunch of layers of cold blue to them.  I need to find some older more decorative versions.

My 4 year old son beat on the top of it with a hammer.


Lead casting / Manhattan Mould
« on: December 03, 2017, 07:54:58 AM »
Does anybody have any experience casting with an original Manhattan mould?  Probably a long shot but just thought I'd ask.  If so, curious as to the diameter round ball and conical that it casts.

Brass and Other Cartridge Casings / Cartridge Boxes
« on: November 16, 2017, 08:11:46 AM »
I have been wanting to make a few of these for a while.  A drill press (which I don't have) would make this way easier, I ruined a couple when the wood partitions between the holes got too thin.  These are my first two, I have a few others and some additional ideas on decorating them but pretty pleased with how these turned out. 


Army Models / .454 or .457
« on: October 13, 2017, 07:30:55 AM »
Is anybody using .457 round balls in their 1860 or are you using .454?  I have been using home cast .454 in Pietta made 1860's.

Tools and other trinkets / Range Boxes
« on: September 25, 2017, 07:09:24 AM »
Let's see some range boxes.  Attached is one I made out of scrap shelving material, it's too thick and adds unnecessary weight.  I need to rebuild it and maybe make something smaller.  I'd like to add a small tray to one half of the box.  When I put a few guns in there it gets kind of heavy, but, I can carry everything I need.  Tho sometimes it's nice to go minimalist and not carry tons of stuff.  Paper cartridges are great for that.

Anybody else made anything similar?

Gunsmithing/Tuning/Parts & Repairs / Nipple Modification
« on: September 21, 2017, 09:38:05 AM »
Don't know if anyone has seen this video but thought I would post it. 

I tried it on a set of ASM nipples that Remington 10 or 11 caps would fall right off, same result with CCI caps.  Now have a great fit with Rem 11's and the slight change in dimension didn't affect ignition.  Figured I would have to replace them till I saw this - not really rocket-science but I never thought of it as a solution.  I'm sure some of you guys were already aware of this.


Lead casting / Mold Repair
« on: August 10, 2017, 03:03:56 PM »
I recently found an original Colt mold, the cavities are in decent shape but the pin that holds the two pieces together is really loose.  It looks like its been replaced with the wrong style pin.  This mold is probably mid 1850's and is the brass style mold before they came with a spruce plate, but it looks like a sprue plate style pin might've been the attempted replacement part as the head of it is concaved and I've never seen an original brass mold where the pin wasn't totally flat on both the top and bottom.

Has anybody ever popped that pin out, repaired or ever attempted a repair on one of these old molds?

Navy Models / 1861 ASM Navy with Colt Markings
« on: June 16, 2017, 07:18:28 AM »

Wanted to share a few photos of this recent acquisition.  It has a date code of "AI", 1982, which I think puts it at the end of production of the 2nd Generation guns?  I have been after a civilian version of the 1861 and was glad to see this one come along.  I would describe the overall condition as really good and seems to me like it's had very little use, looks like it might've been used a little bit way back when, cleaned up and then put away.  The nipples show very little in the way of evidence of firing, nor does the hammer, chamber mouths still really sharp, bore is great, wedge has hardly a scrape mark, etc.

I've read all the varying threads on the ASM's with Colt markings, haven't seen any 1861's with those markings.  I know some collect the ASM's with Colt markings, this is my first one of those, but I have several other ASM products, which I am really fond of.  Any additional info or insight would be appreciated.

General Discussion / Favorite - now defunct - Importers
« on: March 08, 2017, 12:59:53 PM »
Ruling out the notion that most of us would scoop up any rejected revolver that comes along and that most guns came from the same handful of manufacturers.   

I'm curious as to which now defunct importer's cap and ball guns you find most desirable, for shooting or collecting, and why?  For example, I think a Navy model from Replica Arms is more desirable than a Navy model from CVA, even if both guns were manufactured by ASM, that sort of thing.


General Discussion / Farthest Revolver Target and Hit It
« on: March 03, 2017, 08:59:50 AM »
What's the greatest distance you guys have shot a cap and ball revolver and hit the target?  Bench rest or handheld, either way.  Does anybody regularly practice it at 75 yards or so?

General Discussion / Range Time
« on: February 02, 2017, 01:57:25 PM »
Just curious, how often do you guys shoot, or get to shoot? 

Scooby seems to be able to shoot on his property as often as he wishes and perhaps others are fortunate that way also?  Me, I have to drive an hour to an outdoor facility, and then stand there shoulder to shoulder with everybody else, so not only does it impact my range time but takes away all the solitude/therapy of doing it solo.  Kind of cheapens the experience a little, IMO.  I try to go during off times when there are fewer folks around, definitely helps.   

Wish I could just walk out the door and blaze away, but no such luck where I am now.   


Pocket Models / Conicals for Pocket Models
« on: January 26, 2017, 10:25:59 AM »
Does anybody cast conicals for their pocket models?  Other than original versions, are current style molds that cast conicals in that size available? 

I'm currently running low on .320 lead round ball and have been contemplating getting a mold to cast that size (or close to it).  The thought did occur of buying a bag of #0 buckshot and being set for life.  But the thought having the ability to cast both round ball and conical for it would be nice.

General Discussion / Cabelas/Bass Pro Merger Delayed
« on: December 08, 2016, 05:57:25 AM »
Probably still going to happen, but just fyi...


General Discussion / Elmer Keith Sixguns, autographed copy
« on: August 26, 2016, 11:30:15 AM »
Not mine, thought somebody might be interested in seeing this.  If it should be posted elsewhere please place appropriately. 


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