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Scatterguns / Stevens Model 520
« on: July 14, 2020, 08:43:20 PM »
Any of you men seen or messed around with one of these old gems? It has the moniker of "The Double Humpback." The old man has had it setting in the corner for some years now. He said it would not function properly, and after messing with it some, he tossed it aside. He told me to get it up and running, so I did so. It did not take much. After half a days work cleaning the gunk out of it, she functioned perfect and printed a fine pattern at 35 yards with six rounds cycled through the action and bore. Someone had cut the original stock back and added a thick sissy pad to it, so now I am looking for an original replacement. Hard to find so far.

Anyway, this is yet another design by John Browning in 1903 and the patent approved by 1905. Stevens Arms and Tool Company ran with the design and started producing it. All I can say is that it is one heck of a neat pump scatter gun. In my opinion, John Browning was the finest firearms developer of all times. You would have to see this thing tore down to agree with me. Way ahead of the times. Christ, the detail in the action works and the machining it took to match the grooves in the barrel breach and the receiver are impressive.

Anyway, once I locate an original stock, here is one more piece that will once again be put to use and most likely take a wild turkey with brass hulls and black powder. Dang, I like messing around with these old forgotten guns.

Oh ya, if you get a hankering, look up the history on this model and take note on it's transition into a military trench gun in WWII. Then try to buy one for a price you are willing to give.

DSCN5104 by Steve OBrien, on Flickr

DSCN5105 by Steve OBrien, on Flickr

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Winchester / Uberti 1876 50-95 WCF
« on: July 14, 2020, 06:30:16 PM »
Took this one out today and shot 20 rounds through it. Uberti builds a fine 1876. Next best thing to owning an original. They are big ol heavy rifles and not for the weak and timid. With a cleaning rod stored in the butt stock and a magazine tube stuffed full of cartridges, they are a heavy beast. I am shooting a hand cast 445 grain bullet powered by a case full of Swiss powder. Accuracy is not as good as the 1876 Ubertri that I have in 45-60, but it will do for minute of deer lung accuracy at 100 yards. I have only packed it a couple of times out hunting, but have yet to pop something with it. Perhaps it will catch my attention this fall when I head out to make meat. Regardless, this is one very well built and good looking piece. Some nicely figured Walnut ended up on both the butt stock and for-end. The bluing is nice as well. However, the case coloring is a bit bland. I am proud to have this one among the group of lever rifles I own just because of the calibre. Enjoy the pics.

DSCN5108 by Steve OBrien, on Flickr

DSCN5109 by Steve OBrien, on Flickr
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DSCN5112 by Steve OBrien, on Flickr

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Some of today's off hand shooting at 75 yards on a 10 inch plate.
DSCN5115 by Steve OBrien, on Flickr

The group saved to my reloading journal when i first developed a load for this rifle.
DSCN5114 by Steve OBrien, on Flickr

General Discussion / Re: Your favorite way to load your BP Revolver
« on: July 06, 2020, 07:26:56 PM »
I do both regularly, but average more shots fired with loose powder and ball. Mostly because most of my belt rigs are set up with a flask holder. However, I can now crank out paper cartridges in fine order so the difference between the two methods might come closer to 50/50 over time.

I like to make the paper cartridges more than I like metallic cartridge reloading, so that factor has a huge sway in my preference.

Was on the phone today with mazo, talking about various subjects and it eventually turned to Page-Lewis rifles. I commented on how well the one that I am currently working on was built. The tight tolerences and excellent machining. Mazo then informed me that in one of his books, De Haas made the claim that the Page-Lewis was perhaps the best built "Boys Rifle" of them all and if they would have gotten an earlier start, they could have sold tons of them. However, they got a late start in the game of building single shot 22 calibre rifles and their reign was short lived.

You just got to love history!

That's great Emery! The kid that owned it made a sound attempt to make sure no one was going to steal it.

I am currently working on a Model A Target. The only difference between the two is that the Target does not have a butt plate, has a shorter barrel, and has a dove tailed fixed rear sight while the B has a butt plate and an elevation adjustable rear sight.

General Discussion / Re: Finally got to go shoot yesterday!
« on: June 29, 2020, 12:52:27 PM »
Glad you were able to get out. I bet you are stoked to feel a touch of normal living.

Powder Horns & Flasks / Re: Basket weave flasks
« on: June 29, 2020, 12:46:59 PM »
Those are sweet and in very good condition. If I recall correctly, you have quite a collection of original flasks.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: A sad day
« on: June 29, 2020, 12:40:58 PM »
May you find some degree of peace during such a trying time. It is so hard to loose a close friend.

Smokeless Single Shots / Re: A Rare Find
« on: June 28, 2020, 09:31:45 PM »
I was just scrolling through the auctions looking for a modle 1894, a 1915, or a 26 and low and behold, there sat this modle 16. I ran in and showed the pictures to the old man and he said, you better buy that one. After the 2nd cycle with no bids, I decided to go for it.

Smokeless Single Shots / A Rare Find
« on: June 28, 2020, 03:49:23 PM »
Just took possession of this two days ago. I concur with the man who last owned it that it has not been fired. It has been in his possession for the past twenty years and he got it off the internet as well. I did tear it completely down and could find no evidence that is has been shot. In fact, I believe that it has never been torn down. I even found metal shavings inside of the receiver from the original machining operation. The bore is absolutely perfect and you can still see tooling marks on the lands and in the grooves. It also has acquired a few minor handling marks over the last hundred and almost twenty years, but that is to be expexted. Some of the old oil that was present had long since varnished and the rest was not far from there. 

The modle 16 was built from 1900 to 1913. This one is an early pre-patent second variation. I have no idea when the patent was approved for this modle, but I would suspect this one was made shortly after 1900.

The 16 is my favorite modle. I like the little side lever and the rolling block action. I sure wish I new who originally saw to it that this thing remained in pristine condition. I have never seen a boys rifle of any make in this shape before.

DSCN5093 by Steve OBrien, on Flickr

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1873 SAA Colts / Re: 38-40
« on: June 28, 2020, 02:48:55 PM »
Na, you was clear bigted and never miss lead anyone. You stated clearly that you were interested in that round in a SAA. Hawg and I was just chatting and adding info.

1873 SAA Colts / Re: 38-40
« on: June 28, 2020, 12:06:06 AM »
The parent case used to develop the 38 WCF was the 44 WCF. Exact same dimensions between the two other than a more pronounced shoulder and necked down mouth to accommodate the smaller diameter bullet.

1873 SAA Colts / Re: 38-40
« on: June 27, 2020, 08:09:29 PM »
Always meant to. Just never got around to buying a SAA. I do shoot that round in an original 1892 Winchester rifle. I use a bullet cast from an original Winchester mould. They weigh 180 grains. The 38-40 loads exactly like the 44-40.

Smokeless Single Shots / Re: A Tiny Stevens
« on: June 27, 2020, 02:15:35 PM »
They are in fact bringing some good prices if in excellent shape. There are few out there in that condition. This one was in good shape and I got it for a good price.  Currently, I am seeing guys jumping on the 150.00 dollar junkers but passing on the 300.00 ones.

I just received the Holy Grail yesterday. Got it off Gunstroker. It is a second version modle 16 Stevens. She is in AS NEW condition, never fired, with only minor handling marks. How this piece ever slipped through the cracks and managed to not end up in a wealthy collection is beyond me. It is a one of a kind and it now is on my homestead. I will put up a thread very soon. I did not have to give 1200.00 for it but by all rights, I should have given more than twice what I gave. Not a person bid on it for two complete cycles and I got it for the starting bid on the last day. You will be impressed when I show it.

Walkers & Dragoons / Re: My "new" Walker
« on: June 26, 2020, 09:18:00 PM »
Awesome find mantruck. It is a 1962.

I have a Walker with the exact same date code. It is one of the first modles that was imported into the U.S. by Replica Arms Co. out of Texas when they first started. The company sold shortly after and became Replica Arms Inc. And set up shop in Ohio.

You got yourself a nice early piece.

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