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Navy Models / Re: The Improved Navy
« on: September 29, 2011, 04:30:34 AM »
i see now!  why does one have the squareback triggerguard ?

Colts improved the revolver with the addition of better steel (produced by the Bessemer process and marketed by Colts as Silver Steel), the rounding of the barrel and the use of the "creeping" loading lever instead of the toggle and link lever commonly found on pre 1860 revolvers.  These changes were introduced in the 1860 Model and carried to the 36 caliber 1861 a year later. 

The square back triggerguard was one of many options offered by Colts on the revolvers produced by them.  I just happened to find one of each.

The full fluted cylinder was introduced on Colts revolvers as a weight reducing idea.  First found on the Dragoons it was also used on the 1860s and 1861s.  Not many 1860s were made this way as the 44 caliber 1860 had a tendency to burst the full fluted cylinders and many were returned to the factory and replaced with the more common engraved cylinder.

General Discussion / Re: Wanted: High quality pic for forum header
« on: September 29, 2011, 04:24:59 AM »
The revolver in my photo is the ASM version of the first Richards conversion of the 1860 Colt.  Several things are not correct but it was the only option (and still is the only option)for a first Model Richards without going to a full blown custom creation.  The cylinder should be rebated and the frame notched to match, the ring should have a lip to shroud the rear of the cylinder,the screws should be non metric and a few other trivial errors need to be corrected.  I am quite pleased witht he revolver as it filled a void in my accumulation of revolvers.  To this day, no one markets a First Richards that is 100% accurate to the originals but my ASM is good enough for me, if not for the purists.  I am happy that ASM chose to offer it in 44 Colt instead of bowing to demand and offering it in the unauthentic 45 long Colt.

Walkers & Dragoons / Dragoon and Walker
« on: September 28, 2011, 03:01:13 AM »
Well the sub forum is Walkers and Dragoons but I only have one of each so here is a photo of them together.

The Dragoon is an ASM from 1965 and the Walker is also from 1965 but I don't recall the maker.

Walkers & Dragoons / Second Dragoon
« on: September 28, 2011, 02:50:06 AM »
This is a copy of the Second Dragoon, imported by Replica Arms Company, Marrietta Ohio and built by ASM(?) in 1965.

A big heavy revolver, it nonetheless packs a good punch and has accounted for a good number of shots on small game, and targets of opportunity.

General Discussion / Re: Wanted: High quality pic for forum header
« on: September 28, 2011, 02:44:55 AM »
Here's one of my favorite photos.

Navy Models / Re: Short barreled Old Model Navy
« on: September 28, 2011, 02:39:18 AM »
It's an oldie! I see XIII=1957.

I'll have to look at it again, my records show 1973.

A better photo

1873 SAA Colts / Re: Where Are All The 1873's?
« on: September 26, 2011, 02:52:26 AM »
At least one of you members must have an 1873 Colt model to share with us!  :'(

I've had two, a 7 1/2" and an Artillery, 5 1/2".  The Artillery is gone and I have no photos of the Cavalry Model.  I'll get some for you.

Navy Models / Short barreled Old Model Navy
« on: September 25, 2011, 03:03:07 AM »
As some may know, I have an appreciation for short barreled revolvers.  Because of that I frequently take a hacksaw to the long barreld models and create a more easily carried piece but this one came to me already chopped.

I have only recently persued 1851s but this is the third one I have encountered and it is also the third one that is what I consider to be a civilian model, with no provisions for a shoulder stock.  Whoever shrtened it did a good job and replaced the front sight well.  I have not yet taken this to the range so I do not know if the front sight is set for my eyes but I doubt it.  Not sure if I'll replace the post or inlet a dovetailed blade.

Pocket Models / Re: My Pocket Navies.
« on: September 25, 2011, 02:49:54 AM »
Been a long time since I weighed any charges for C&B revolvers, I have spouts on my flasks that throw the correct amount to fill a chamber and still let me seat a wad and a round ball on top and clear the cylinder face.  Not sure how much that dose weighs but it speaks with authority.  Not nearly as much as the 1861s hold but I refer to my Pocket 36s as the 36 caliber revolvers with recoil.

As for carrying, a lot of times they are carried behind a belt or sash, in a pocket, in boot tops, or even in a holster.  I have made a couple of loop holsters for the Pocket revolvers and use the holsters interchangeably with my Pocket Police, Pocket Navies and the 31s.  The 6" barrels make it a bit tough to find the correct size pockets but I have a few coats that can hold them.

Pocket Models / My Pocket Navies.
« on: September 24, 2011, 03:57:33 AM »
(I did not want to steal the thunder of Fingers McGee's fine post of his PN so started this one to show mine.)

Here are my Pocket Navies, both by Uberti and each is 1 of at least 100,000 made.  In other words maybe not common as dirt but a bit less rare than T-Rex.

Not yet cased but there is some mahogany sitting in the back yard waiting for a project.  Both shoot and carry well and I have a lot of fun with them.  Round ball and loose powder is my preferred method of loading but I have used paper cartridges on occassion.  For walking the woods, a lot of fun but my Pocket Police is the more carried revolver.

Pocket Models / Re: Captain's Baby Dragoon
« on: September 23, 2011, 02:50:37 AM »
I have two of the Baby Dragoons and they both have the square guard.  No room for my trigger finger in either.  I wonder if the Wells Fargo Models have enough room?

Pocket Models / Re: Two of my Baby Dragoons
« on: September 23, 2011, 02:41:08 AM »
I believe they are both made by Armi San Marco.  The time frame is correct for ASM and to the best of my recollection neither have a makers mark on them.  I will look at them again soon and refresh my memory.

As for cases, I make my own.  I have a supply of recyled lumber and for these cases I will be using mahogany.  I resaw the 1x stock down to half inch and use the wider piece for the carcase of the box and the narrower pieces for the divisions.  I am currently material rich and time poor, so this is a project to be done at a later time.

Navy Models / The Improved Navy
« on: September 22, 2011, 02:58:57 AM »
(Since there is no sub forum for the Improved Navy Colt revolver, I will post them in this area.)

These are the revolvers that started it for me.  I was shopping at the Log Cabin Shop (Lodi, Ohio) and they had these two on display.  They came home with me nearly 40 years ago.  Both were made in 1970 by Uberti and imported into this country by the Replica Arms Company of Marrietta, Ohio.  They are much enjoyed and handled.

Another pair of revolvers that beg for a case in which to reside.

Pocket Models / Two of my Baby Dragoons
« on: September 22, 2011, 02:51:58 AM »
Here are two of my Baby Dragoons.

Both have the 6" barrel.

And another photo without the accoutrements.

It is my intention to build a case to hold the two revolvers but that is a project for less busy times.

Pocket Models / Re: Captain's Baby Dragoon
« on: September 22, 2011, 02:39:29 AM »

I see you have the square backed triggerguard.  Not much room behind it for the middle finger is there?!?

I have two 31s with the square guard and wish there was just a bit more room.

[(23 September, 2011)  Not the middle finer, there is no room for the trigger finger in the guard.]

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