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Navy Models / Re: 36 cal revolver ball?
« on: July 21, 2016, 04:29:20 PM »
My 5-shot police model takes .375 RB's, all the rest take .380 RB's.  The teensy .31 Remmy takes .330 RB's a bit large but they work.
All 36 cal except the .31


Conversions / Re: 38 Colt conversion cylinder for 1851
« on: May 08, 2016, 10:44:31 AM »

I have the 38 Special listed at .440" Rim Diameter, .379" Base Diameter, .379" Neck Diameter, 1.155" Length.
38 Long Colt listed at .440" Rim Diameter, .3789" Base Diameter, .378" Neck Diameter, 1.035" Length.
38 Short Colt listed at .440" Rim Diameter, .379" Base Diameter, .379" Neck Diameter, .765" Length.
38 Long & Short Colt could be made by trimming either 38 Spl. or .357 Mag cases.
You would need to use either a heeled base bullet, or a hollow base to expand & fill the grooves.
Thanks, those specs are what I needed to see, and the fact that that pile of .38 brass will not go to waste.

Welcome Wagon / Re: New here.
« on: May 04, 2016, 09:10:16 PM »
Welcome from Arizona.  We watch Time Team a lot.


Welcome Wagon / Re: Hello all! From Tucson, AZ
« on: May 04, 2016, 09:07:18 PM »
Welcome from sunny Mesa, AZ.  It was only 100F today.


Conversions / Re: 38 Colt conversion cylinder for 1851
« on: May 02, 2016, 08:53:54 PM »
I'm game.  I have that DGG/Spesco monster in .36 cal.  I have a pile of 38 special brass (pounds of it).  Would love to use this brass in/on/with this "revolver".  I noticed mention of heeled bullets.  I imagine that they are like .22 LR bullets that are the same diameter as the OD of the brass and not like regular 38 special that fit all inside of the brass.  Sounds wonderful.

What is the difference between 38 special and 38 long colt?
Diameter?  Length?


P.S. I slid a .38 special bullet down that barrel, not tight.  Tried to fit a .38 special brass into the barrel muzzle to check for size, no fitting.  Maybe heeled bullets will work here.

Navy Models / Any Conversion for that Spesco'd Revolver
« on: May 02, 2016, 02:25:31 PM »
The frame is a DGG (?) Colt.  The Spesco barrel ID is about 0.367 inch on the lands.
Is this too loose for a .38 special conversion?  ???

I have pounds of .38 special brass.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: What did you do today?
« on: April 29, 2016, 03:57:02 PM »
RE: That put together revolver.

During shooting, the existing barrel wedge loosened up enough so that I had to stop as the cylinder gap was too much.  Several times the loading lever would drop down further aggravating the shooter.

After cleaning said revolver, a new wedge was made.  Longer and wider.  Started with a piece of 2 inch web angle iron (steel).   For thinning, several hack-saw cuts were made then HF files went to work to smooth the wedge.

Notice how beat-up is the one on the right, the original.  New one on the left.

Yes, the new one sticks out a bit but this gives me plenty of "wedge" to keep her tight.  (no comments here please :-).

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: What did you do today?
« on: April 28, 2016, 06:40:00 PM »
Hey BartSr,  nice to hear from you.  Glad you are feelin good enough to mess with your guns.    Looks like the steel frame, fluted cylinder shorty was an 1861 Navy.   How bad are the barrel and cylinder?  Could they be rehabbed?
As shown in an added picture to the original posting (above), the fluted cylinder has the flutes off center or rather rotated so that one side of each bore is thin, but seems ok.  The barrel (marked 1862) has been shortened by about half to eliminate the worst of the pitting, along with a mod to the rammer slot.

Rehabbed, well, Maybe.   ^j)

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: What did you do today?
« on: April 28, 2016, 12:38:35 PM »
More pix added (above).


Off-Topic Discussion / Re: What did you do today?
« on: April 28, 2016, 12:09:36 PM »
Yesterday (does that count?) I made one revolver out of two semi-useless revolvers.

I took a DGG frame (bad cylinder and bad barrel) added that Spesco brasser cylinder and barrel.  After some mods on the Spesco barrel portion I have a nice looking 1851 type .36 cal shooter.  The Spesco barrel is spotless but the cylinder needs reaming on three of the bores. 

More info here:  :-H

I also had a single stent installed (12/31/2015) hence the delay in posting here at all.  &\?

Still shootin' and a member of the above ground club.

General Discussion / Re: Euroarms DGG .36 cal weirdo cylinder
« on: June 23, 2015, 08:40:57 PM »
OK, thanks guys for all of the information.
It may not be doable so I may look at another pistol in the "closet".  (@+


General Discussion / Euroarms DGG .36 cal weirdo cylinder
« on: June 21, 2015, 11:59:24 AM »
I probably posted this one a long while back, but I am entertaining a conversion cylinder for this puppy.

It is a Euroarms 1862 .36 cal that had the barrel shortened to 4.25 inches because the front internal portion was badly pitted.
Also the cylinder is made kinda funny.

I would like info as what cylinder I could use as I have piles of .38 spec and .357 brass (way more than my wife could ever shoot with her 2 inch snubby .357 maggie).  It would be nice to have a gated type of cylinder (who?/what?)

Paul aka BartSr

Wads, Lubes, Patches, Cleaning Supplies, etc / Re: Soap OIl...
« on: August 29, 2014, 09:36:45 AM »
Maybe it's "Murphy's Oil Soap" ???  :-\

Other Models / Re: 22 Derringers
« on: November 23, 2013, 07:58:54 PM »
Would love to find something similar.  8)

Lead casting / Re: Did someone say "casting"?
« on: November 23, 2013, 07:56:50 PM »
Drooling here.  :P

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