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Re: EMF Paterson on sale
« Reply #165 on: May 06, 2019, 05:23:37 PM »
Hi Jim, my first owned Pietta Paterson was purchased 1/2017. It has a date code of CN (2015). My second owned Pietta Paterson was purchased 8/2018. It has a date code of CS (2017). The serial numbers are only 100 apart. One can understand the lack of current production, minimal demand.

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« Reply #166 on: May 10, 2019, 03:58:58 AM »
Hi, I measured the arbor and barrel arbor hole for my two Pietta Patersons:

CN (2015) arbor = 0.430". barrel arbor hole = 0.434", difference = 0.004"
CS (2017) arbor = 0.433". barrel arbor hole = 0.440", difference = 0.007"

Look at the barrel end of the Paterson and see that there is a reduced section next to the arbor hole to allow wedging the barrel off the arbor. This seems to show that fouling is inherent with the Paterson design.

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Re: EMF Paterson on sale
« Reply #167 on: May 10, 2019, 12:39:25 PM »
Hi, Richard, does the single set screw function as both a barrel wedge adjustment and an arbor length adjustment?
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Re: EMF Paterson on sale
« Reply #168 on: May 10, 2019, 03:32:14 PM »
Hi Kirk, the set screw just is used to adjust arbor length. A 10-32 screw would provide too small a surface area for a wedge adjustment. A small area would batter the wedge. Also, I don't drill the set screw hole all the way through the end of the arbor. If it was drilled all the way though it would weaken the part of the arbor that has to take the pressure load on firing.

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Re: EMF Paterson on sale
« Reply #169 on: May 21, 2019, 05:10:30 AM »
Hi, I came across a write up on the Paterson where fouling is discussed:

https://www.guns.com/news/review/colt-paterson-reproduction-by-pietta-is-a-worthwhile-experience

He found two things that can be done to reduce fouling. One is to increase the barrel/cylinder gap to the width of a playing card, (~0.011").  I had already discovered that a large Paterson gap is helpful to reduce fouling. The other is to use a non stick cooking spray on the arbor. Maybe something like PAM? I'll try PAM the next time shooting the Paterson and report back.

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Re: EMF Paterson on sale
« Reply #170 on: May 21, 2019, 08:54:16 AM »
No reason PAM shouldn't work.
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Re: EMF Paterson on sale
« Reply #171 on: May 21, 2019, 01:26:33 PM »
PAM works fine - for about 18 shots, then it's gone.

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Re: EMF Paterson on sale
« Reply #172 on: May 22, 2019, 03:51:55 AM »

Three words:  White Lithium Grease. 

Put it on Sunday morning and shoot all week.

Hi G Dog, I already tried that, Lubriplate:

http://blackpowdersmoke.com/colt/index.php?topic=2178.msg32263#msg32263

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Re: EMF Paterson on sale
« Reply #173 on: May 28, 2019, 09:38:59 AM »
Hi, I was watching the Movie "Texas" from the novel by James A. Michener yesterday. What was really a hoot at the end of the movie was seeing a shootout by actor Ricky Schroder using two Patersons. I really liked that movie in that all the firearms are historically correct. If you like Patersons, don't miss the end of the movie Texas.

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Re: EMF Paterson on sale
« Reply #174 on: May 28, 2019, 09:41:09 AM »
Hi, I was watching the Movie "Texas" from the novel by James A. Michener yesterday. What was really a hoot at the end of the movie was seeing a shootout by actor Ricky Schroder using two Patersons. I really liked that movie in that all the firearms are historically correct. If you like Patersons, don't miss the end of the movie Texas.

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I've never seen that. I'll have to check NetFlix.
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Re: EMF Paterson on sale
« Reply #175 on: May 28, 2019, 11:51:43 AM »
Hi, I was watching the Movie "Texas" from the novel by James A. Michener yesterday. What was really a hoot at the end of the movie was seeing a shootout by actor Ricky Schroder using two Patersons. I really liked that movie in that all the firearms are historically correct. If you like Patersons, don't miss the end of the movie Texas.

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I've never seen that. I'll have to check NetFlix.


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Re: EMF Paterson on sale
« Reply #176 on: May 28, 2019, 07:39:26 PM »
Hi, I don't think that the movie "Texas" is on Netflix. I have the movie on DVD.

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Re: EMF Paterson on sale
« Reply #177 on: June 25, 2019, 07:05:38 AM »
Hi, I have some good news to report on minimizing fouling with the Paterson revolver. In the past I have reported on fouling preventing easy barrel removal and fouling binding up the cylinder from rotating. Many different lubes and powders were tried with the same result, fouling so bad that barrel removal required a wedge be hammered in between the frame and barrel. No lubes tested worked well.

Today I shot five previously loaded Paterson cylinders with Black Mz BP sub. What was different today is that I used the cooking spray PAM to lube the arbor. The arbor was wiped between cylinders with a cloth and then sprayed with PAM. The PAM did the trick, the cylinders never dragged and the barrel slipped right off. There was zero binding fouling.

This raises a question, why does PAM work well and all the other lubes tried fail? What's different. PAM is a vegetable oil with a high smoking point. Most all the other lubes are petroleum based. I'll leave this question to some of our other scientists here, but bottom line, PAM is an answer to minimizing fouling in the Paterson revolver.

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Re: EMF Paterson on sale
« Reply #178 on: June 25, 2019, 10:43:04 AM »
Good to know. I've always been told not to use and petroleum-based lubes with BP, which is why I always use lithium grease or Rem Oil.
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Re: EMF Paterson on sale
« Reply #179 on: June 25, 2019, 01:09:37 PM »
Hi Kirk, isn't lithium grease and Remoil petroleum based?

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