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Leech & Rigdon Replicas
« on: May 17, 2020, 01:25:16 PM »
Which of the makers made Leech & Rigdons in addition to Gregorelli & Uberti and Uberti.
What about Armi san Marco?
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Re: Leech & Rigdon Replicas
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2020, 08:51:39 PM »
Pietta does not, but I created one about a year ago with a Pietta 1851 Navy and the part round/part octagon barrel & smooth cylinder from the Pietta G&G (which I ordered from VTI).

The current Ubertis have an engraved Navy cylinder while some older ones have the smooth cylinder



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Re: Leech & Rigdon Replicas
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2020, 03:40:06 AM »
Wolf, I actually think only Uberti made the L&R. I haven't seen one by anyone else.
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Re: Leech & Rigdon Replicas
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2020, 08:03:26 AM »
I have seen pics of the G&U ones with their PC plain cylinder and the Uberti ones with the - not PC - engraved cylinders featuring the naval engagement scene.
Unfortunately those pics were from the left side only.
I do not know if the replicas come without the capping channel in the recoil shield and if they lack the Colt-type cap release groove in the face of the frame.
According to what I read the wedge of the originals were fitted with a spring like the Colt 1851 Navy.
They also shared the brass, cone shaped front sight with the 1851.
A couple of pending issues to be researched, ha.
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Re: Leech & Rigdon Replicas
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2020, 07:39:54 PM »
Doing the research is almost as fun as building the gun! Now I'll do some research too!
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Re: Leech & Rigdon Replicas
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2020, 08:35:26 AM »
Exactly, SGD
Note small TG and small size loding opening in barrel lug of originals.
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Re: Leech & Rigdon Replicas
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2020, 08:05:57 PM »
Great pictures Wolf.

Looks like the loading lever catch is shaped a bit different than a Colt as well.
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Re: Leech & Rigdon Replicas
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2020, 07:08:07 AM »
Right you are SGD,
That is the early variant with a spring loaded ball.
Did not work - or hold rather - well in recoil.
The later ones had the Colt-type spring loaded latch which overcame the issue.
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Re: Leech & Rigdon Replicas
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2020, 02:08:41 AM »
I have seen pics of the G&U ones with their PC plain cylinder and the Uberti ones with the - not PC - engraved cylinders featuring the naval engagement scene.
Unfortunately those pics were from the left side only.
I do not know if the replicas come without the capping channel in the recoil shield and if they lack the Colt-type cap release groove in the face of the frame.
According to what I read the wedge of the originals were fitted with a spring like the Colt 1851 Navy.
They also shared the brass, cone shaped front sight with the 1851.
A couple of pending issues to be researched, ha.
Long Johns Wolf

Wolf,  I checked my pair of Leech and Rigdons, a G&U made in 1973, and a Uberti made in  2007.  They both have the blank cylinder; the capping channel in the recoil shield; and the Colt Type cap release groove in the face of the frame.  Hope that helps

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Re: Leech & Rigdon Replicas
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2020, 07:49:34 AM »
Thanks Fingers,
It appears that it is hit and miss when it comes to the (absence of the Ormsby) naval engagement scene on the cylinder of the Uberti L & Rs.
Also both G&U and Uberti seem to use the regular Colt 1851 Navy steel frame in the making of their interpretation of L & Rs see the capping grooves.
The question is now which of the replica makers provides a Colt 1851 Navy steel frame without this capping groove?
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Re: Leech & Rigdon Replicas
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2020, 07:28:37 PM »
I know that a 2nd Gen Colt 1851 Navy doesn't  have the capping groove; but does have the cylinder scene and the cap release groove

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