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Uberti Miniatures Continued
« on: October 10, 2020, 05:48:24 PM »
1860 Army 3-Screw, 1860 Army 4-Screw CFS with shoulder stock, and 1851 Navy 4-Screw CFS with shoulder stock.









































And here is the teaser: Paterson #5, Walker, and Whitneyville Hartford Dragoon.



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Re: Uberti Miniatures Continued
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2020, 01:16:03 AM »
Thanks, Jim.
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Re: Uberti Miniatures Continued
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2020, 10:06:14 AM »
How much do those non-shooters cost? 
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Re: Uberti Miniatures Continued
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2020, 01:32:04 PM »
I have no idea.

Maybe Wolf can help with that.

Jim

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Re: Uberti Miniatures Continued
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2020, 02:41:54 PM »
How much do those non-shooters cost?

My guess is more than the actual guns they replicate.

They are pretty to look at though.
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Re: Uberti Miniatures Continued
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2020, 05:28:58 PM »
I am going to venture that Aldo Uberti created these as functional revolvers, no matter the small size. If, indeed, the barrels are rifled, the actions function, and all the internals work like production revolvers, who is to say unless one has one in hand. I am thinking they might be a .177 or a .14 caliber bore. An industrious person could fabricate caps with enough fulminate to send the projectile down the barrel without using any BP.

Even if that is possible, I am thinking anyone in their right mind who owns one would realize that the value would precipitate drastically and any investment would be like the Dow Jones tanking. If anyone disassembled/reassembled one and left a mark on it, there goes the value.

Maybe Wolf can weigh in on this subject.

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Jim

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Re: Uberti Miniatures Continued
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2020, 06:48:56 PM »
I am going to venture that Aldo Uberti created these as functional revolvers, no matter the small size. If, indeed, the barrels are rifled, the actions function, and all the internals work like production revolvers, who is to say unless one has one in hand. I am thinking they might be a .177 or a .14 caliber bore. An industrious person could fabricate caps with enough fulminate to send the projectile down the barrel without using any BP.

Even if that is possible, I am thinking anyone in their right mind who owns one would realize that the value would precipitate drastically and any investment would be like the Dow Jones tanking. If anyone disassembled/reassembled one and left a mark on it, there goes the value.

Maybe Wolf can weigh in on this subject.

Regards,

Jim

I'm thinking that maybe the shooters that would be .44 cal. are .22, and the .36's are .17.  But usually when I think I get into trouble, so I try not to do a lot of thinking. QSL?
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Re: Uberti Miniatures Continued
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2020, 01:08:16 AM »
The production was terminated ca. 2008.
Of some models less than 10 specimens - more likely less than 5 - were made like the Henry 1860 or the 1836 Patersons.
If they become available at all you are talking upper 4 digits and more.
Of the 1st, 2nd or 3rd Model Dragoons assumingly ca. 50 were produced.
Hence, we talk 2 or 3 grand.
Others were hand-fitted in batches of ca. 1000, with or without wooden cases and embellishment, etc.
You should expect lower 4 digits +/- US $ 500 depending on the condition.
I see them regularly offered at Gunbroker or Collectors FA in Houston.
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Re: Uberti Miniatures Continued
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2020, 12:17:05 PM »
I did a little digging on them. The barrels are not bored through, they are plugged at the forcing cone. Nor are they rifled. So even if you were so inclined, they would not be shootable. They're nothing more than a beautiful novelty.
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Re: Uberti Miniatures Continued
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2020, 12:47:51 AM »
SD and all:
All the Uberti minis in the Hunzinger Collection have rifled barrels, no matter if they are percussion or cartridge Colts or Winchesters 66.
All the cartridge minis have plugged barrels except for one Colt SAA with a "7,5" tube": that one's barrel is "open" but the chambers of the cylinder are not bored-through. This one is of the subscription guns for HEGE in Germany.
To comply with the British gun laws Uberti minis made for the export to Great Britain had to be fitted with barrels without rifling.
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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2020, 02:40:40 PM »
Thanks Wolf. Looks like I had only partial information.

So if a guy was adventurous, and had a little know-how, he could make one of the non British export guns fire. That would be a fun little project!
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