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Bullet Moulds / 2nd Gen Bullet Molds
« on: July 22, 2020, 04:29:16 PM »
Here are some 2nd Gen bullet molds.  From left to right;

W5045 - 1851 Navy, 1861 Navy, .36Cal, brass, straight legs, "Colt's Patent" stamped between pin and
                 funnel of CCH cutter.
W5057 - 1st, 2nd, 3rd Model Dragoons, .44 Cal, brass semi straight legs with curved tips, two line
                 "Colt's Patent" between pin and funnel of CCH cutter.
W5085 - 1860 Army, .44 Cal, blued steel with bow legs, 2 line "Colt's Patent" between pin and funnel of
                CCH cutter. 44H stamped near hinge pin.
W5097 - 1862 Pocket Models, .36 Cal, Blued steel straight legs, 2 line "Colt's Patent". 36P stamped near
                the hinge pin.
W5099 - Baby Dragoon, .31 Cal, brass straight leg body w/o sprue cutter,2 line "Colt's Patent" stamped
                across top of the mold body'

Not pictured are 2 extremely rare molds:

W5099 - 1847 Walker, .44 Cal, single cavity mold for conical bullets only.  Blued steel  bow leg body with
                 tiller handle sprue cutter.  Two line "Colt's Patent" stamped in an oval football shape between
                 the pin and blued steel cutter.
W5085 - 1861 Navy, .36 Cal, Blued steel straight legged body with two line "Colt's Patent" stamped
                between the hinge pin and blued steel cutter.  The caliber 36B is stamped near the hinge pin.

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Powder Flasks / 2nd Gen Flasks
« on: July 22, 2020, 12:24:41 PM »

Back in April of 2018 I posted this information on 2nd Gen powder flasks.  I figure it would be nice to post it again to stir some interest on the Collecting Forum

Listed and shown below are 7 of the nine different 2nd Gen flasks,  The two missing are variations of the Walker/Dragoon flask. All 2nd Gen flasks, except the Dixon bag flask, have Colt's Patent embossed on the face.


W5095 - Small Eagle flask with deep blue/black finish for Baby Dragoon, Pocket Navy, and Pocket Police flask
W5046 - Bag Flask in the US Grant Commemorative 1851 Navy
W5047 V1 - Medium flask with deep blue/black finish for F series 1851 and 1861 Navies
W5047 V2 - Medium flask with a blue/gray finish in the R.E.Lee commemorative 1851 Navy
W5047 V3 - Medium flask with a pewter finish for late C series 1851 Navies
W5083 - Medium flask with a heavy blue/black finish for F series 1860 Armies.
              The W5047 V1 and W5083 are identical except for the powder spout.
 W5056 V1 - Walker/Dragoon flask - other variations are finished or stamped differently.

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Stainless Steel Replicas / Some more of the 37
« on: July 19, 2020, 11:41:33 AM »
more SS Uberti Colt's

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Stainless Steel Replicas / Some of the SS Uberti Colts
« on: July 19, 2020, 11:29:29 AM »
A few of the 37 SS Uberti Colts that have been identified to date:

first picture top to bottom:
1851 Navy
1861 Navy
1862 Pocket Navy

second picture top to botton
1861 Navy 7 1/2 inch
1862 Pocket Police 5 1/2 inch
1862 Pocket Police 4 1/2 inch

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Pocket Revolvers / Cased London 1849 Pocket Model
« on: July 15, 2020, 03:24:58 PM »
I thought I had posted this before; but, I can't find it. So I'll do it again. I claim Parkinson's memory loss for not knowing where I posted it. This one qualifies under more than 1 classification, Pocket Models and Cased Sets.  In January I won a GunBroker Auction for a London model Colt 1849 Pocket model made in 1854. 

Enjoy


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Cased Sets / A couple Piettas
« on: July 12, 2020, 01:09:51 PM »
This double pistol set is made up of components collected over the past 29 years.  The bullet mold and one of the Armies came from a single Army cased set purchased as a Christmas present to myself in 1991 from Cabelas Christmas catalog. The complete set was $240.00, It was one of IIRC 5 different cased set models they catalogued that year.  In July of 2001 I picked up one of their sets that was a double pistol set consisting of a 3rd model Dragoon and an 1849 Pocket Model with matching serial numbers.  Sold that set in 2006.  Wish I had it back.  October Country has similar set for sale; but not matching Serial numbers and the nipple wrench is missing.  I can't remember where or when I got the double pistol case.  It's not a 2nd Gen.  Same with the nickel plated flask.  The second Army I bought off of GunBroker along with a shoulder stock in 2006.  I sold the shoulder stock for $160.00.  The Armies were used off and on in SASS competition for a few years until the frame pins sheared off on one of them during a match.  I didn't get around to fixing the pistol until a couple years ago, and it still hasn't been test fired.  These were one pair of the 10 or so pairs of guns I've used in SASS competition.  I probably would have won more matches if I'd have stuck to one pair.

So now, without further ado,  Here is the set:


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Photo Gallery! / GLB Schneider and Glassicks
« on: July 10, 2020, 01:43:36 PM »
In 2010 I purchased a consecutive serial numbered pair of nickel plated Schneider & Glassics made by GLB  [Luciano Giacosa - Brescia] and imported by FIE.  The frames are nickel plated brass and the date of manufacture is 1970.   

When I received them I noted that both had been fired at some point and needed cleaning.  Upon teardown I found that one of the pistols had a loose wedge that had been put in from the wrong side, broken sear/trigger, and both of them had loose arbors, to the point that they could unscrewed from the frame by hand.  I cleaned them up and put them in their original boxes, and put them on the shelf until I could find a parts gun for the wedge and trigger.  :o

It's been 10 years with no luck in finding a nickel plated wedge and trigger; so, I guess I'm gonna have to find someone with the expertise to fix them. :(   

Here are a couple old pictures:   :o



 

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General Discussion / Stainless Steel Uberti Percussion Colts
« on: July 08, 2020, 01:37:20 PM »
Not having updated this post since April, I figured now would be a good time.  In the last year, I sold 6 of the ten models I had, and picked up the two from October Country that Dr. Davis had in the RPRCA collection.  There are still a bunch of these amazing (just ask Shotgun Dave) pistols out there. :)

In the early to mid 1980s, Uberti produced a line of stainless steel percussion Colt revolvers that were imported to the US by Allen Firearms, Santa Fe, NM; Southwest Muzzleloaders Supply, Inc. Angleton, TX, Uberti USA, Navy Arms, and Western Arms Corp and possibly others.  They are now also known to have been sold in Europe under the HEGE dealer name. 

Phil Spangenberger did an article about these stainless revolvers in the October 1983 issue of Guns and Ammo Magazine. According to the article, the models that were being imported were the 1851 Navy, 1860 Army, 1861 Navy, 1862 Pocket Navy, and 1862 Pocket police. Thanks to Dr. J.L. Davis of RPRCA, Claremore, OK, I have a 1984 price list for Uberti products that lists fourteen different models of Stainless Steel Colts produced by Uberti at that time. Subsequent price lists expanded the line to 16 models by adding 4 ½ inch barreled Pocket Navy and Pocket Police. The complete model list, known so far, is:

1851 Navy, Oval Trigger guard Revolver, Cal. .36
1851 Navy, Square back Trigger guard Revolver, Cal. .36 *
1851 Navy, “Sheriff’s Model” Oval Trigger guard Revolver, Cal. .36
1851 Navy, “Sheriff’s Model” Square back Trigger guard Revolver, Cal. .36 *
1860 Army, Military, Cut For Stock, Cal. .44 *
1860 Army, Military, With Fluted Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .44*
1861 Navy, Military, Cut For Stock, Revolver, Cal. .36 *
1861 Navy, Civilian, Revolver, Cal. .36
1861 Navy, Military, With Fluted Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36*
1861 Navy, Civilian, With Fluted Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36
1862 Police, Semi-Fluted Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36, Barrel 4 ½”
1862 Police, Semi-Fluted Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36, Barrel 5 ½”*
1862 Police, Semi-Fluted Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36, Barrel 6 ½”
1862 Pocket Navy, Engraved Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36, Barrel 4 ½”*
1862 Pocket Navy, Engraved Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36, Barrel 5 ½”*
1862 Pocket Navy, Engraved Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36, Barrel 6 ½”
(* - have identified location of examples of these models)


The current total of known revolvers is 37 (Shotgun Dave having acquired #37). I have 5 of these revolvers and know of thirty-two in the hands of other collectors or BP shooters. Five of the 32 are located overseas - One in England, one in Spain, one in Poland, and two in Switzerland.

Anyone with information concerning Allen Firearms, Southwest Muzzleloaders Supply, Western Arms or any other Uberti Stainless Steel Colt style revolvers is requested to contact fingersmcgee@charter.net  I am seeking information as to models, manufacture dates, serial numbers, barrel markings, barrel lengths, trigger guards, and any other characteristics as well as any catalog, brochure and original packaging information.

Of course, if anyone has any for sale, I would be interested in that also.

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Griswold & Gunnison / Uberti Griswold and Gunnison
« on: June 29, 2020, 05:57:13 PM »
And, in the same lot from Rock Island, was a very rare Uberti Griswold & Gunnison made in 1971.  Unfired, unturned, in pristine condition. Brass frame, BS & TG are a mellow tan.  Unfortunately, I didn't get the box with this one.

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Colt Pocket / One of a kind Pocket Model
« on: June 29, 2020, 05:41:02 PM »
Here is a pocket model unlike any you've seen before, that I got from Rock Island Auctions.  It is an unfired Uberti 1848 Baby Dragoon with a 4 inch barrel, made in 2003, in the white (NOT Stainless Steel) from the factory with original box and papers.  You might say it is New in the Box.  There are no markings on the frame other than the serial number and date code. The barrel has 2 proof marks on the right side, serial number on the bottom of the lug; and " Cal .31 Black Powder Only Made in Italy"  on the underside of the barrel.  Could have been a special order by Taylor's. (?)  All of the markings; with the exception of the two stamped serial numbers; are very faint and could be eliminated easily.  Could this pistol been destined for some fancy engraving?

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Cased Sets / 2nd Gens for sale
« on: June 20, 2020, 11:18:34 AM »
Just in case you are interested, here are some 2nd gens for sale - not mine; but I can connect you to the owner.

Walker cased set $1150
1st model Dragoon cased set $1000
2nd model Dragoon cased set $1000
3rd model Dragoon C series cased set $1300
3rd model Dragoon F series no box $775
1860 Full fluted Army cased set $800
1861 Pocket Navy cased set $825
48 Baby Dragoon in original box
51 Navy C series in original box
51 Navy F series cased set
60 Army fluted unfired but handled no box
61 Navy cased set
62 Pocket Police cased set

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The Gregorelli & Uberti Revolvers / October Country GUs
« on: June 16, 2020, 08:54:24 PM »
I spoke with John  at OC earlier this evening.  He's going to send me pictures of the last 10 or 12  GUs he has. I'll  be posting when I get them.

 (j*

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Leech & Rigdon / A One and Only
« on: June 12, 2020, 03:55:29 PM »
On 17 September 2010 Dr. Davis and I were bidding on the same revolver listed on GunBroker.  I let him have it for the RPRCA collection.

Fast Forward to 12 June of 2020.  Thanks to October Country I now own that very revolver that is still Uber rare being that there is still not another one known to exist.  The revolver is a Gregorelli and Uberti steel frame, .36 caliber Sheriffs Model Leech and Rigdon with a blank cylinder, Navy Arms Barrel Address, and a 1961 Date code.  It has never been fired and appears to have never been cocked.  It is as pristine as the day it was made  Pictures follow:


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Cased Sets / Eye candy - or, if you prefer, Gun Porn
« on: May 12, 2020, 01:00:46 PM »
In the process of updating the visual record of my collection.  Decided to start with the case sets.  All of the sets in these photos are 2nd Gens except for the Tucker & Sherrard and the double G&G set 

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Colt Pocket / 1862 vintage Colt's 1849 Pocket Pistol
« on: April 22, 2020, 12:27:29 PM »
Won the bid on GB for a rare 1849 Pocket Pistol on Sunday.  It is a six shot pistol with a six inch barrel, and a Hartford, CT. 2 line barrel address.  I don't know if it's the holy grail of pocket pistols or not; but, according to "Colt's Variations of the Old Model Pocket Pistol 1848 to 1873" by P.L. Shumaker, this pistol is one of only 1850 that were made. There were approximately 340,000 pocket pistols made between 1848 and 1873.  Between 1861 and 1873, approximately 110,000 of the total were made with 6 shot cylinders.   

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