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Colt Pocket / 1st Generation 1849 Pocket Models
« Last post by Fingers McGee on September 08, 2019, 12:50:46 PM »
Can we get a little action here on this board?  I'll start:

Just won one on Gunbroker.  1865 manufactured 6 shot Pocket model that had a rear sight added at some point.  Unfortunately I can't post any pictures of it.  The attach file option isn't turned on. Guess that's one reason nobody is on this forum
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Trading Post / Re: 2 Stainless Steel Uberti Colt's for sale
« Last post by Fingers McGee on August 29, 2019, 06:36:30 PM »
2 down and two to go
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Trading Post / 2 Stainless Steel Uberti Colt's for sale
« Last post by Fingers McGee on August 22, 2019, 11:29:28 AM »
Life and circumstances are always changing.  For the past 15 years I've been trying to track down as many of the Uberti Stainless Steel Colt's as I can.  Having been diagnosed with Parkinson's disease in August last year has caused me to rethink my collecting efforts.  As a result, I am going to sell 4 2 of my Stainless Colt's for $500 each.  Pictures on request.  Only 2 leftThey are:

1851 Navy, Square back Trigger guard Revolver, Cal. .36 *

862 1Police, Semi-Fluted Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36, Barrel 4 ½”  SOLD

1862 Police, Semi-Fluted Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36, Barrel 5 ½”  SOLD 


1862 Pocket Navy, Rebated Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36, Barrel 5 ½”*

Also selling the holsters for $140 ea, or $100 with a pistol.
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Cased Sets / Re: Experts weigh in?
« Last post by Fingers McGee on August 05, 2019, 04:01:54 PM »
I'm definitely late to the fire on this thread, but .......He definitely got a good rare set.  I'm assuming it's steel framed? but even if it's not, it's worth a tidy sum as long as it's unfired.

is it too late for pictures? 
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Colts / 1rst Generation Colt's
« Last post by Fingers McGee on July 05, 2019, 02:31:02 PM »
Second Generation Colt's are getting scarcer and scarcer to find. Especially the presentation and limited edition models - it's next to impossible. So, I've decided to take my collecting in another direction; First Generation Colt's percussion revolvers - specifically 1851 Navies and 6 shot 1849 Pocket Models. My first foray into this is winning the bid on a Rock Island Auction lot that had one of each. Took delivery today on an early 3rd Model 1851 Navy made in 1852, and a 6 shot 1849 Pocket model made in 1863. Both are in what I would consider great shape for their age with some traces of original finish and fully functional with good lockup. All markings and cylinder scenes are present and legible. I may have paid too much; but I don't care.

July 3 update

I spent an hour or so this afternoon stripping the Navy down for a good inspection.  All of the screws and nipples came out with little effort.  I even used my zero torque $5 electric screwdriver getting them out.  The nipples are unlike any I've seen before.  The flash hole is too small for my nipple pick, the bottom is domed, and the sides are straight up & down, not tapered, and they are like new.  The mainspring is about twice as thick as a Uberti or Pietta, which explains the extremely heavy cocking force required.  It's sporting a  standard Uberti spring now.. Cylinder cleaned up nicely, and the bore was worn & pitted as would be expected, but isn't really that bad.  I didn't take any pictures during the process, It is sitting in the in safe ready to go out & make smoke.  Plan is to do so this coming Saturday.

Tis pistol is in fine shape.  Who ever had this before me took very, vey  good care of it.  It may have cost me a petty penny; but I think it was worth it.  I just hope I have he same opinion after it gets used.

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Colts / Re: Stainless Steel Percussion Colt's (Update 27 Feb 2019)
« Last post by Fingers McGee on June 30, 2019, 10:31:36 PM »
Back to the top again

Stainless Steel Percussion Colts

In the early to mid 1980s, Uberti produced a line of stainless steel percussion Colt revolvers that were imported to the US by Allen Firearms, Santa Fe, NM; Southwest Muzzleloaders Supply, Inc. Angleton, TX, Uberti USA, and possibly others. They are now also known to have been sold in Europe under the HEGE dealer name.

Phil Spangenberger did an article about these stainless revolvers in the October 1983 issue of Guns and Ammo Magazine. According to the article, the models that were being imported were the 1851 Navy, 1860 Army, 1861 Navy, 1862 Pocket Navy, and 1862 Pocket police. Thanks to Dr. J.L. Davis of RPRCA, Claremore, OK, I have a 1984 price list for Uberti products that lists fourteen different models of Stainless Steel Colts produced by Uberti at that time. Subsequent price lists expanded the line to 16 models by adding 4 ½ inch barreled Pocket Navy and Pocket Police. The known model list is:

1851 Navy, Oval Trigger guard Revolver, Cal. .36
1851 Navy, Square back Trigger guard Revolver, Cal. .36 *@
1851 Navy, “Sheriff’s Model” Oval Trigger guard Revolver, Cal. .36 *
1851 Navy, “Sheriff’s Model” Square back Trigger guard Revolver, Cal. .36
1860 Army, Military, Cut For Stock, Cal. .44 *@
1860 Army, Military, With Fluted Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .44*@
1861 Navy, Military, Cut For Stock, Revolver, Cal. .36 * @
1861 Navy, Civilian, Revolver, Cal. .36
1861 Navy, Military, With Fluted Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36*
1861 Navy, Civilian, With Fluted Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36
1862 Police, Semi-Fluted Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36, Barrel 4 ½”@
1862 Police, Semi-Fluted Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36, Barrel 5 ½”*@
1862 Police, Semi-Fluted Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36, Barrel 6 ½”
1862 Pocket Navy, Engraved Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36, Barrel 4 ½”*
1862 Pocket Navy, Engraved Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36, Barrel 5 ½”*@
1862 Pocket Navy, Engraved Cylinder, Revolver, Cal. .36, Barrel 6 ½”
(* - have identified location of examples of these models)
(@ - have this model)

The current total of known revolvers is thirty five. I have nine of these revolvers and know of twenty six in the hands of other collectors or BP shooters. Two of the known revolvers are in Switzerland, one is in England, one in Spain, one in Poland and an 1861 Navy sold on GunBroker in Feb ‘19. The Swiss and Polish models are marked Original Hege on the barrel, the English model has the typical Allen Firearms barrel address, and the one in Spain has a blank barrel. Markings for the one sold in Feb are unknown. Seller wouldn't respond to inquiries.

Anyone with information concerning Allen Firearms, Southwest Muzzleloaders Supply or any other Uberti Stainless Steel Colt style revolvers is requested to contact [email protected] I am seeking information as to models, manufacture dates, serial numbers, barrel markings, barrel lengths, trigger guards, and any other characteristics as well as catalog, brochure, and original packaging information.

Of course, if anyone has any for sale, I
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Remingtons / Re: Spanish Remington
« Last post by Captainkirk on April 17, 2019, 01:31:39 PM »
If the EN Santa Barbara is in 95% condition with no ill fixes to it I'd pay $400. The ordanance grade steel is the catcher combined with the precision machining and extra smooth bores.  I like the fact the "bolt" can't peen the cylinder......like any cartridge revolver that fires smokeless powder …...unlike the Italian soft cylindered revolvers.

Good info, I am in the process of acquiring a SB.
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Remingtons / Re: Santa Barbara
« Last post by Captainkirk on April 17, 2019, 01:29:21 PM »
Santa Barbara was not an Italian maker, but a Spanish one. Their date codes were different.
Can you post any picture of the markings ?

Thanks for the response, Ringo!
Unfortunately, I don't have any photos yet (or the gun, for that matter). As soon as I get it I'll post up some pix.
Yes, I was aware the SBs were made in Spain, but didn't realize onlt the Italians used the typical date codes we are all used to.
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Remingtons / Re: Santa Barbara
« Last post by Ringo on April 17, 2019, 12:43:11 PM »
Santa Barbara was not an Italian maker, but a Spanish one. Their date codes were different.
Can you post any picture of the markings ?

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Remingtons / Santa Barbara
« Last post by Captainkirk on April 13, 2019, 01:46:21 PM »
OK, so I couldn't resist. I spied a Santa Barbara at the LGS which was (I thought) underpriced, though obviously used. I was able to talk the store clerk down even more than the price listed and put some money down on it.
While looking it over, I noticed there was no date code anywhere I could see. Is this normal for the SB guns?
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